AA in a loose passive field (FPS?)

[michaelp]

Its 6:00am Saturday morning, you have been shifting through broken tables for the past few hours. There has been 2 cycles of the button with 7-8 players seeing every flop for one bet. You image is tight, you are the only player folding regularly preflop, but with some of the table drunk and only one serious player still there perhaps this is irrelevant.

Hero is UTG+1 and dealt AA

Do you raise to thin the field?

Call with the intention of re-raising?

I opted for the second and was lucky enough to have SB raise, so I followed through with the plan and re-raise facing most of the field with calling 2 cold. This was called by the whole table creating a huge pot.

What are the forums thoughts here?

Of course I was overtaken at the turn with 8 opponents in, but really thats neither here not there.

[SNOWBALL138]

You generally don't go for the limp-reraise unless you believe there will be a raise behind you. The way you describe the situation, it doesn't seem like you had any indications this was going to happen.

[Harv72b]

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Do you raise to thin the field?

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No. You raise for value.

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Call with the intention of re-raising?

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It's a loose/passive table, so I don't think you can count on a raise behind you. The only time I dip far enough into my bag of tricks to pull the AA LRR is when there's a very aggressive, very bad player behind me. And even then, I usually just raise so he can 3-bet me.

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I opted for the second and was lucky enough to have SB raise, so I followed through with the plan and re-raise facing most of the field with calling 2 cold. This was called by the whole table creating a huge pot.

What are the forums thoughts here?

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You pulled off your trick play and all it did was trap the field to call 2 more, many of them probably getting correct pot odds to do so. Just raise in the first place.

[Nick C]

With 7-8 players usually seeing the flop for one bet, it seems like you have an easy preflop raise for value with your aces, when the action first gets to you.

Once in a rare while, I limp-reraise with aces like you did, but the table conditions don't sound very good for that play, in the situation you describe. (I'd want to be more confident that a raise was coming behind me.)

[michaelp]

Thanks

[W. Deranged]

I think doing anything with AA pre-flop other than raising is misguided 95% of the time. The rest of the time involve specific cases with super-maniacs left to act behind you.

[TheHammer24]

The only time I LRR is with 77 88 or so from EP and a nitty over agressive player raises from late position. The blinds fold and its back to me HU.

[JacksonTens]

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The only time I LRR is with 77 88 or so from EP and a nitty over agressive player raises from late position. The blinds fold and its back to me HU.

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I hate LRRers and think its the sign of a genuine monkey!

But I do like this.
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