AKo, any better alternatives?

[stoxtrader]

Seat 1: Anrik (£4789.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Flatliner (£2150 in chips)
Seat 3: stoxtradr (£2017 in chips)
Seat 4: cplease (£2184.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Anyhow (£771.50 in chips)
Seat 6: SAMMYGARE (£1392.55 in chips)
Flatliner: posts small blind £10
stoxtradr: posts big blind £20
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to stoxtradr [Ac Ks]
cplease: folds
Anyhow: folds
SAMMYGARE: folds
Anrik: raises to £80
Flatliner: folds
stoxtradr: raises to £240
Anrik: calls £160
----- FLOP ----- [As 6c 3c]
stoxtradr: bets £200
Anrik: raises to £400
stoxtradr: raises to £1777 and is all-in

results in a bit...

[Gustavo]

Any info on the villian?

[fsuplayer]

looks fine. he has and will talk himself into a call with AQ/AJ more often than he has AA here.

[stoxtrader]

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Any info on the villian?

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yes, tight and solid, but I'm still on the baby steps of good default lines. Before I start worrying about adjusting said plays for my opposition.

Kind of backwards, but I feel more comfortable with my player specific adjustments than I do with solid default lines.

[mgsimpleton]

call raise, check turn or lead turn weak... i really dont think AQ can pay off as played, only a set...

[stoxtrader]

call raise, check turn or lead turn weak... i really dont think AQ can pay off as played, only a set...

very good point, and I think clearly better on a three suit flop. Does the fact that there are two clubs on the board make my line any better?

[Denutz]

I think the two tone flop does make a difference - I'm not sure if villian falls into this category, but some people go crazy on the two tone flop, convincing themselves that the other person is just bluffing the flush. This may sound weird, but I wouldn't be too surprised if he turned over KK or QQ with a club. How's the read?

[mgsimpleton]

i wasn't very wordy before but let me also add... it is so likely he has total air here that i think your line loses a lot of value. i think air (and i include small pocket pairs like TT or 99 in there) often calls raise pre, sees ace on flop, and tries to take it away. he called a huge reraise preflop and you have the Ac meaning he doesnt have AcKc or something... do you realllllly think he has a flush draw? It is unlikely, imo.

so most likely what i'm doing here is "thinking for a while" and calling, then checking or betting slightly less than half pot on turn (the choice between those two depends on my opponent's tendencies). if you bet and he calls on turn, it is likely he has AQ or flush draw, in which case you can decide bet check call riv or bet for value... most likely he will fold turn but sometimes when you are extra lucky he'll get that inkling to push you off your KK.

edit: didn't see stack sizes. when so short, prolly check turn. logic still applies.

[Yeti]

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so most likely what i'm doing here is "thinking for a while" and calling, then checking

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bingo.

he's not the greatest opponent to do this against, but this is what i tend to do v most.

[Andrew Fletcher]

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stoxtradr: raises to £240
Anrik: calls £160

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tight and solid

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huh?