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Old 12-29-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default 10/20 General discussion on unimproved AJ

One player limps from EP, I raise from MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and everyone folds to the limper who calls....

Flop comes: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

And the opponent bets into me....
How often is he on a draw?
How often does he have a pair?
Should I raise him for a freecard?
Should I raise him and bet the rest of the hand?
Should I just call him and fold turn if unimproved?

How do YOU act in these situations?
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 General discussion on unimproved AJ

what's your read on the villian, this read dictates my action in a (common) situation like this. there is no default play.
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 General discussion on unimproved AJ

It's a tough spot and I probably don't do the same thing twice in a row and nothing a majority of the time. In general, I believe you are drawing better than 75% of the time.

Btw, not being patronizing but your English is awesome. Better than a lot of native speakers (which is just begging someone to comb my post for grammatical errors).

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Old 12-29-2005, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 General discussion on unimproved AJ

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How do YOU act in these situations?

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He could have you on overs and be playing you instead of his hand by agro betting. He could be on a draw and agro semi-bluffing. He could have TP.

What's important in spots like this is trying to have some kind of plan for the turn if you continue on the flop, whatever your action is.
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 General discussion on unimproved AJ

This kind of hand shows up ever so often. That's why I was hoping for general advice. But I realize that this situation (like so many other Holdem situations) must me treated differently from time to time. All depending on your opponent, your read on him/her or stats on him/her. But if SA125 is right I'm quite satisfied. I always decide on the flop what this particular opponent might have and then make up my mind for future betting rounds. I'll often go for flopraise/freecard or flopraise/turnbet. Against more passive players (I think these players more often have a pair) I often choose a flopcall/turnfold or turnraise depending on what card shows up on the turn.
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:12 PM
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Btw, not being patronizing but your English is awesome. Better than a lot of native speakers (which is just begging someone to comb my post for grammatical errors).


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Thanks! But remember, my native language is Swedish. I try to write as proper English as possible, but errors of all kinds will definitely show up in the future! By the way, 'thanks' is 'tack' in Swedish.

Tack!
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:49 PM
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If you didn't know anything about you opponent and were only going to play this 1 hand against him you should probably fold. You aren't a favorite vs. a flush draw, unless you have him dominated.

pokenum -h ad jh - ks 9s -- th 7s 2s
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7s 2s Th
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ad Jh 450 45.45 540 54.55 0 0.00 0.455
Ks 9s 540 54.55 450 45.45 0 0.00 0.545
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:10 PM
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my default is to call and fold the turn UI, but that strategy could probably be taken advantage of.


EDIT: against certain players it's "see you at showdown"
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:59 AM
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I've been thinking a lot about this subject over the night. I guess if you're not able to recognize when your overcards are safe it's probably best to fold...
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