80-160 Blind Defense

[Clarkmeister]

5-handed. Very aggressive (i.e. typical) preflop raiser open raises in the C0. He uses position well and can overplay postflop, but is a good postflop thinker. He'll be raising stuff like 22, 78s, JTo and A5o here. Folded to me in the BB with Ks6s. I call.

Flop is Kh Qs 8c. I check-call.

Turn is 9d. I check, he checks.

River is Js. I check-call.

[DcifrThs]

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5-handed. Very aggressive (i.e. typical) preflop raiser open raises in the C0. He uses position well and can overplay postflop, but is a good postflop thinker. He'll be raising stuff like 22, 78s, JTo and A5o here. Folded to me in the BB with Ks6s. I call.

Flop is Kh Qs 8c. I check-call.

Turn is 9d. I check, he checks.

River is Js. I check-call.

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facts: you both know that you both know each of you can play. shorthanded 80-160. he'll raise with many hands here you are immediately ahead of. also, you show not one iota of aggression through the whole hand presumably so he bets his worse hands into you a lot and try to get him to play less tricky against you in the future.

so...flop is KQ8, you have to like this but you check to him and let him bet his hand or lack thereof for sure, he obliges, and you call (no raise?- i think you wanted him to bet all three rounds with a worse hand like aq or something so he's thinking you're calling with less than top pair, but i like getting more money in sooner when i think i'm good, and i certainly do here.)

then you check turn when possible draw hits and puts more draws on board and he checks behind (? what do you think this means, what does he do this with)

river complets a straight w/ the t and you let him bluff at it.

i think you'd be good here enough and hed bluff at that enough to make it a call...but why not c-r the flop?

what were your thoughts throughout the entire hand and what did you think he was thinking?
-Barron

[Vehn]

What does checkraising the flop accomplish?

I would usually play it the way he played it.

[Paluka]

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What does checkraising the flop accomplish?

I would usually play it the way he played it.

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Checkraising the flop prevents it from going check-check on the turn.

[DcifrThs]

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What does checkraising the flop accomplish?

I would usually play it the way he played it.

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c-r'ing the flop i guess doesn't do very much...we don't want him to fold worse hands or get more $$ with better so c-ring seems dumb in retrospect.

he knows his opp. will take another shot at it on the river and if he has a t or two pair he's gotcha but oh well.

on second glance i think you're right and that check-calling down an aggresssive player is sometimes best...but i want to be able to set up c-r semi-steals later so thats one reason to c-r.

-Barron

[SinCityGuy]

You've got a fair hand heads up, top pair/weak kicker. Looks like he might have been afraid of getting checkraised on the turn, then when you checked again on the river, he could have bet a lesser hand for value. Of course, he could also be bluffing at the straight, or he could have actually drawn out to the straight.

The way you played it, you avoid dumping chips if you're behind, yet still with a decent chance of winning the pot.

[karlson]

I still like the checkraise on the flop. There are a lot of hands with which he'll really like the free turn card. Also, you will be bluffing at these pots quite a bit, so he will occasionally call you all the way down with a hand like TT or something.

[J.A.Sucker]

Checkraise the flop. Bet the turn. Check call the river.

[MHoydilla]

If your going to play the hand this way, why not check raise the river?

[Vehn]

Because he won't get called by a hand that he beats?