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Old 06-11-2004, 05:42 AM
cero_z cero_z is offline
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Hi David,
$30/hour at least.
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Old 06-11-2004, 06:18 AM
The WET BEAVER The WET BEAVER is offline
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I want to change my answer. It is about $24.

This situation will actually help you. It is related to the protected pot concept. If all 3 of you are in a pot together, and expert raises the sap's bet, it will give you very good information. If the victim is mediocre-loose, then the expert won't try to bluff when you are both in the pot.

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Old 06-11-2004, 06:26 AM
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I want to change my answer. It is about $24.

This situation will actually help you. It is related to the protected pot concept. If all 3 of you are in a pot together, and expert raises the sap's bet, it will give you very good information. If the victim is mediocre-loose, then the expert won't try to bluff when you are both in the pot.



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Another bright bulb that didn't read the part about not commenting on the situation, just post a number.
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Old 06-11-2004, 06:46 AM
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OK, one other expert and me. Lets assume that I and the expert are equal in playing skill. My win rate is $20 per hour and so is his. We are a push between us, so our win comes from the other 7 players. Lets assume the other 7 players are all equally weak. $20/7 gives the amount each player figures to be worth to each of us. I am losing at least part of this $20/7 from the guy the expert is spying on. It isn't clear that I am losing all of it. The expert also knows two cards that I don't know in all hands. This advantage could be worth more than the first advantage, and it affects all the other players at the table including me. On the other hand, I know he knows, and that should restore part of the balance. For sake of arguement, he is taking half of what the spyed guy was going to lose to me. He is also taking maybe 25% of what the rest of the table was going to lose to me. His knowledge of two cards per hand should make him +EV against me too, but I know he knows and can sometimes use that to my advantage, so lets call that a wash. Thus he is costing me 20/7(.5) + 20/7(6)(.25), so he is costing me about $5.75 per hour.

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Old 06-11-2004, 07:18 AM
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$20/hr
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Old 06-11-2004, 08:23 AM
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I think it would rise substantially with the other players in the game. Say 30 (Your have much more info than
other 7 players).

In a 3 handed game only, your rate would drop dramatically,
probably making the game unplayable.
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Old 06-11-2004, 08:36 AM
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Wow, the ability to read english is pretty damn horrid here.

But I'd estimate an increase of .5 to .75 BB/hr with this info.
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Old 06-11-2004, 08:45 AM
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$32.00/hour.
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Old 06-11-2004, 09:45 AM
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Definitely up, let's say $22.
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Old 06-11-2004, 09:47 AM
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one other expert

Hell, I'm just happy that you'd consider me an expert!

The answer is 0 or close to it!
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