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Old 12-14-2005, 11:46 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: Art\'s little hand of the week.

If only there were loose passives left at 10/20 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: Art\'s little hand of the week.

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UTG Folds, Button calls (Hell yeah!)

Turn is a 7.

Hero beats himself to a pulp.... and does what?

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Well, bummer you 3-bet (although I guess if you didn't, you wouldn't be here. Calling that flop stinks). If you check, I assume he won't bet there at 10/20. You probably don't want to risk a river check. If you think a turn bet will fold this guy, I like checking the turn, expecting him to check behind. And then betting any river. If he bets that turn, you're a lucky, lucky man.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: Art\'s little hand of the week.

I don't think you have enough equity to justify 3 betting and I don't think your going to knock anyone out with that 3 bet, so I'd just call.
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Old 12-15-2005, 06:39 AM
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Default Re: Art\'s little hand of the week.

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So you're buying less than 1/3 of 3 outs in a ~12SB pot

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I believe this isn't quite correct because on those times where you actually ARE forcing out another king then there are only 2 kings left.

So you have 3 king outs 'normally' but the raise is effectively attempting to 'buy' one-third of only 2 outs.



I guess if the king comes we don't really care how many there are left....we just care whether that other guy is still in the hand or not and could have a better king.
I think that somewhere in there the point I'm trying to make is valid...but it's really late and I'm not sure of much of anything at this point.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:32 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: Art\'s little hand of the week.

Callings the worst of the options in my view.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: Art\'s little hand of the week.

Um, I hope the question was... "I bet... but while I'm waiting to see whether or not button raises, calls, or folds, should I take a sip of coffee or a bite of donut?"

Because the answer is clearly: donut.

And I you clicked "check" here's a slappin'.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:07 AM
Jinx Jinx is offline
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Default Re: Art\'s little hand of the week.

Why do you think calling is the worst option? You have 4 clean outs, the BD flush, and maybe 6 tainted ones. If this is button free card play so be it, you want to see the turn and river cheaply. I'd just call.
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