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Old 11-15-2005, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

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Old 11-15-2005, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

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How the hell does Kondracki play TT, opening for 1/2 his stack instead of pushing?

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Why bet over T1,000,000 at a pot with about T250,000 in it? He's got to build a stack. That means he's got to get called when he's got the best of it.

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If you're going to call a push, why not push yourself, and if you're folding to a push, why put in 1/2 your stack?

Isn't this basic poker as related day in and day out in the MTT forum???

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If you have a hand that you want to get action with(not saying this is the case here) then sometimes its better to not push right away but to make a smaller raise.

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Absolutely, wholeheartedly agree...just not sure how much, if any action I honestly want here as you alluded to.

I understand, that he has to double to have a shot and those point are few and far between as Dynasty pointed out, just not sure that adding 25% at that point would outweigh my desire to double with exposing TT to action.

I really appreciate this discussion!
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Old 11-15-2005, 10:02 PM
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anyone like how Black played that set?

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Nope. It seemed like a golden opportunity to win a massive pot simply by calling and checking to your opponent on the turn.

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agreed.
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Old 11-15-2005, 10:03 PM
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If you're going to call a push, why not push yourself, and if you're folding to a push, why put in 1/2 your stack?


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I would want to get all my chips into the pot with TT as the small stack. So, often you've got to entice somebody else into aggressive play rather than just picking up the blinds with an all-in push.

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This "seems" absolutely contrary to almost everything I thought I've learned here....No disresepect at all, beacuse I search for your posts quite honestly, but I'd like to see this hand discussed at length in MTT....if I'm this far off base, I'd like to be set straight, or at least shown the road of discovery [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I also would've pushed with 10s in that situation as well. If I had more chips, then maybe I would've tried to induce a re raise.
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Old 11-15-2005, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

Hand 93 - Tex Barch has the button in seat 3, Black raises to $550,000, Kanter reraises to $1,550,000, and Black calls. The flop comes Kd-5h-3c, Kanter bets $1,000,000, and Black reraises to $4,000,000. Kanter takes some time to think about the raise. He pulls out some stacks as if to stack, and he does call. There is no raise, but there is a LOT of money in the pot as we head to the turn.

The turn card pairs the board with the 3h, Kanter checks, and Black asks Kanter how many chips he has left. Kanter counts them out, and Black checks as well.

The river card is the 8c, Kanter bets $2,000,000, and Black calls. Kanter shows pocket kings (Ks-Kc) for a full house to win the pot. His supporters explode into some of the loudest cheers of the night, as Kanter wins the largest pot of the night -- worth $15 million!
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Old 11-15-2005, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

I was waiting for the Lazar meltdown to see the responses here. I'm surprised how tame it's been.

In the press conference after he got knocked out, Lazar was absolutely crushed. He knew he messed up. He said that he had planned on playing that Ace hand but chickened out for some reason. When he would've probably taken a huge pot, he just tilted. Lazar made no excuses, but was really shaken up.

It was interesting to see him talk about it. It's hard to feel bad for someone who wins that much money, but I felt bad. He talked about how he felt like he let down his family. They were all there with him, of course telling him that wasn't true.

Part of his emotions probably had to do with fatigue. It's hard to tell by the telecast, but it was very late already when he got knocked out.
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Old 11-15-2005, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

1. Aaron Kanter - $21,000,000 (seat 6)
2. Tex Barch - $13,000,000 (seat 3)
3. Andrew Black - $10,200,000 (seat 2)
4. Steve Dannenmann - $6,600,000 (seat 8)
5. Joseph Hachem - $4,200,000 (seat 1)
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Old 11-15-2005, 10:07 PM
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Any guesses to what Black's second card on that hand was? I really have no idea.
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Old 11-15-2005, 10:08 PM
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Nice laydown by Dannenman.
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Old 11-15-2005, 10:10 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

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Any guesses to what Black's second card on that hand was? I really have no idea.

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I think it's got to be AK for him to call the river. Maybe A8h?
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