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[Aaron W.]

Limper in front of me is super loose. I mean 80 VPIP super loose. He's not particularly aggressive, either. This is was I raised to isolate him with a weaker holding than I would normally have. BB is very new to the table, so I have no read on him.

Do you follow through on the turn? What about the river?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero...

[PokerSparky]

I would have bet the turn. I check the river.

[Disconnected]

I'd check behind here. I don't think given the texture of the board that you'll be able to fold a better hand with a bet; if he hasn't folded by now, that river won't do it, and it's hard to imagine a weaker hand paying off.

[milesdyson]

i don't like the isolation attempt without knowledge that both blinds are really tight. even then it would be marginal in my opinion.

i don't see the choice on the river there. if he has called you down thus far with ace high, he will call again. if he has called with any pair, he will call again. there aren't any worse hands for him to call you with, as you split with any K (most unknowns don't find a call here with jack high).

so it's a very standard check through.

[scotty34]

Could you explain to me why you would consider betting this river?

[Chairman Wood]

better holdings call, busted draws fold, if you check you beat nearly every busted draw. I see no reason to bet here.

If he could fold an ace than this river bet is mandatory; it is unlikely he will fold an ace.

[Aaron W.]

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If he could fold an ace than this river bet is mandatory; it is unlikely he will fold an ace.

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Based on...

[milesdyson]

it is nowhere near mandatory to bet here if he would fold an ace.

the guy has to have an ace in the first place. do the range - give him every possible ace, every possible pocket pair, and every possible pair of 4 or 9. say he only folds the aces. i'm sure it won't be "mandatory."

plus, a player who will check call the turn with ace high is more likely than not a player who will also check call the river with ace high. this is another factor against betting.

[Aaron W.]

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do the range - give him every possible ace, every possible pocket pair, and every possible pair of 4 or 9.

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Do you think all pocket pairs check-call the the flop and turn on a super-ragged board?