Calling down AKs unimproved

coinflip · #1 02-14-2005, 12:50 AM

Villain in this hand is 17/8/2.66. Flop seems standard, although I'd be interested in hearing if anyone prefers to check/call here. I'm mainly curious about people's thoughts on the turn and river here.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 folds, MP2 raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

coinflip · #2 02-14-2005, 09:16 AM

Bump for the morning crowd [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

phillydilly · #3 02-14-2005, 09:39 AM

This may be weak tight, but i usally lay this down to the flop raise, if I had backdoor striaght or flush outs, I'd see the turn, but as it stands right now, I let it go.

Turn, I'd definately fold,
River, I'd fold,
now, allow the weak tight bashing to begin

ScottTheFish · #4 02-14-2005, 11:00 AM

You have to bet the flop, and call the raise, first question is on the turn...he's pretty aggressive so it's possible he's pushing AQ or something, hoping you missed, too. I probably call him down as you did, expecting to lose to a middle pocket pair most of the time.

Fat Nicky · #5 02-14-2005, 11:13 AM

Flop is fine. My default play on the turn after getting raised on the flop with overcard and I don't have any draws is to fold.

syka16 · #6 02-14-2005, 11:21 AM

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This may be weak tight, but i usally lay this down to the flop raise

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That's the only move that's W/T. Folding on the turn is pretty standard for me.

Rico Suave · #7 02-14-2005, 11:22 AM

Fat Nicky:

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My default play on the turn after getting raised on the flop with overcard and I don't have any draws is to fold.

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Mine too.

But I think I do not show down my big aces unimproved often enough against unknowns.

--Rico

Khaos337 · #8 02-14-2005, 11:31 AM

He seems like a pretty tight player... since he re-raised preflop and post flop, i would think he'd be holding jacks or better.... best case scenario you're looking at is that he's holding AK as well and you chop. I think you fold this hand to his turn bet.

Michael Davis · #9 02-14-2005, 11:34 AM

Folding the turn would be terrible. What are his opponent's most likely holdings, and how big is the pot?

-Michael

Milky · #10 02-14-2005, 11:40 AM

He didn't cap pre-flop. Hero 3-bet, villian called.