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Old 11-13-2005, 12:52 AM
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Default Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3

Villain is Tek Recka, not sure if he's a 2+2er, but for about the entire last hour (5th hour of the deepstacks, close to the money) we've just been stealing a ton from the table. Do I call all in here? He could have basically any two, and I figured he probably had the same straight after the huge bet, but should I risk all my chips?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t41643)
MP1 (t22776)
MP2 (t86722)
Hero (t86099)
Button (t17320)
SB (t14768)
BB (t22785)
UTG (t13985)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t2400</font>, Hero calls t2400, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t5150) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t3200</font>, Hero calls t3200.

Turn: (t11550) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t2400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t76000</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t92350

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. MP2 wins t92350. </font>
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:19 AM
NorthernGuy NorthernGuy is offline
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Default Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3

You kept limping, but he's still showing strength... I don't like it. I give this one up, as you still have a healthy stack. I was at your table for a long time, btw.
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3

Yes, I noticed, sorry for stealing all of your blinds. :P
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3

yeah that big raise def. shows strength with that board.
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:43 AM
La Brujita La Brujita is offline
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Default Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3

Why not fold or reraise preflop? I don't play any tournaments this deep but I would fold most likely or reraise.
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3

i dont remember playing with him but my note says hes a loose raiser :P

but i still fold

are you still in this thing?
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3

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Why not fold or reraise preflop? I don't play any tournaments this deep but I would fold most likely or reraise.

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ditto

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Old 11-13-2005, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3

He's definately a loose raiser. Yeah, I'm still in it, 22nd of 67 w/ ~64k... at a table with Exitonly.

Edit: Recently lost ~20k in a hand where I bet w/ AJo, flop came 752, villain bets, I call, turn A bet, raise, call, river 7, I check behind, he had A7... ow.

And I go out, bet all-in into a flopped set.
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Old 11-13-2005, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3

I think you played this hand horribly. Preflop is raise/fold. Flop is raise/fold.

Playing passively against a TAG is generally bad.
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Old 11-13-2005, 06:14 AM
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Default Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3

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Playing passively against a TAG is generally bad.

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I feel like I understand what you're saying here intuitively, but I wonder if you can elaborate on this idea a bit.

My intution is that you can't let a tight aggressive player dictate the size of a pot or how the bets get into a pot. You either don't give him action when you feel he's strong, or you raise and reraise to allow his tightness to come into play and give him a chance to fold when you feel you can push the TAG off his hand. In any case, you don't just call bets, (and here's where I get lost) because you're likely to be behind? or because you get no information about the TAG's hand?

Bleah. I am curious if there's a general principle I'm missing here.

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