$109s - AT Hand

[Unarmed]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

BB (t1000)
UTG (t1000)
UTG+1 (t1000)
UTG+2 (t1000)
Hero (t1000)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t1000)
CO (t1000)
Button (t970)
SB (t1030)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t75) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t75</font>, UTG calls t75, Hero ?

[theordinaryboy]

i fold this.

Mainly because the pot is going to be big on the turn and hero has a vulnerable hand.

If for example, hero is actually ahead here, then any diamond, J,Q,K,6 scares hero. However, hero might not be ahead. BB could easily have a BB special T7, 75, T5. UTG's call probably represents a draw but could be an overpair or a set (altho utg is more likely to have raised here).

I believe this early on in the tourney this hand is too risky and vulnerable especially considering that the size of the pot will be 300 on the turn, if a brick comes bb bets 200 and utg and hero calls then the pot is 900 on the river if another brick comes then hero could well end up all-in.

The only other play i like is to raise on the flop, however, if hero gets called and one of those scare cards comes then hero has a tough decision to make.

I'd play it safe and fold.

[yid3655]

Unarmed why did you limp this? For me its a cert fold (im a $30 player), in a multiway pot i dont like this hand especially early on, if you hit the ace or ten (as happened) your in a tricky situation v early on with no reads and very little in the pot thats worth fighting for.

[Karak567]

What kind of flop are you looking for limping AT if not this one?

If you are playing for two-pair or better I do not think your implied odds in a 109 are good enough to make this limp +EV.

[Nicholasp27]

call me weak, but i fold this

i think bb has good shot at being ahead of u right now and utg may be drawing to a better hand than yours as well

it's not worth raising here and not worth calling 75 because unless u get another t on an ace, with no more dimes and no 8/9, u aren't feeling comfortable spending 25-100% of ur stack on this hand...so imo calling 75 here is just a waste of 75 chips...raising is a waste of 200+ chips since they will call or possibly reraise that

[Unarmed]

Oops, sorry guys. No PF debate please. I limp tons of stuff level 1 because my implied odds (yes even with AT) are huge, I'm able to get away relatively cheaply with second best hands, and I can often take the pot down without having much of anything.

But honestly, I just like to see flops. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[yid3655]

Nice one ta

[45suited]

I'd give this one up. This seems like a classic situation where you're either a bit ahead or way behind.

Unraised pot, level 1... I ain't going broke here and it costs too much to raise to see where you're at. BB could have any random two pair, straight draw, flush draw, etc. Plus, UTG's flat call concerns me. Between the two of them, one of them probably has a good draw, the other may already have you beat.

I don't mind limping AT here in a 1000 chip game so long as I'm able to get away from a flop like this. I'd fold.

[The Don]

At best the bettor has Q10 or something and the caller has a draw. The BB could have anything, and probably has something better than a pair of tens if he is betting OOP like that. I would fold.

[mosdef]

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What kind of flop are you looking for limping AT if not this one?

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IMO the problem isn't the flop, it's the suspicious and multiway action in front that is a problem. you either need to:

1. fold out of confusion because you have no idea where you are.

2. raise because you feel you're in a good spot. you do have tptk with position.

i favor the raise because it's so early in the tournament. in other words, these guys could be messing around with anything since you have no reads (as far as i know). my guess is that a healthy raise will clear out any flush draws, hopefully leaving you heads up with against a weaker T (or a monster, but i'll take that chance).

you're still in a tough spot on the turn, especially if a scary card comes, but there's a lot of blank turns too.