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Old 07-18-2005, 09:07 PM
tacoshooter tacoshooter is offline
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Default Bellagio 4/8 Premature Flop Muckage

Just got back from a weekend in Vegas and this interesting little gem of a hand came up on my first session in the 4/8 game. Lots of floor involvement, lots of anger, tons of fun.

I'm UTG+1 and raise with AQs. Three cold callers to Tilty Angry Old Man who calls in the BB. Dealer lays out the flop, which is QQ9, rainbow. Tilty Angry Old Man fires out a bet. SB and UTG muck. I say "raise" and reach for chips. Almost at the same instant the entire table turbomucks in near unison, home-game style.

This is where it gets weird.

The dealer mucks the flop and pushes the pot to Tilty Angry Old Man who flips up a 9. I yell, "Hey! I've still got cards!" Tilty Angry Old Man begins grumbling that he has a full house and the pot is his while the dealer gets flustered and calls the floor.

Couple of members of the floor come over and survey the situation. They ask the rest of the players at the table what the flop was and the players agree that it was QQ9 rainbow. Floor has the dealer fish those out of the muck and rules that Tilty Angry Old Man and I should finish the hand out of a re-shuffled deck, and that I had to call his bet (no raise).

I check it down to keep some sembalance of the peace (plus the SB was making a big deal about how he had a boat that he showed her). Turn and river are unimportant and the old guy gets super pissed when I table my AQ. He storms off grousing about how he got screwed.

So did he? Standard floor decision? I'd never seen this happen before so I wasn't sure how to handle it other than keeping a tight grip on my cards.
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Old 07-18-2005, 09:22 PM
JKDStudent JKDStudent is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio 4/8 Premature Flop Muckage

I have no idea what the "correct" decision here is, but I like the ruling that took place.

Tilty Old Guy loses points for trying to lie his way to pot ownership.

I wouldn't have checked it down.
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Old 07-18-2005, 09:22 PM
AngusThermopyle AngusThermopyle is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio 4/8 Premature Flop Muckage

He claimed he had a full house but could not produce it?
Did he claim the flop was not QQ9?

Your story has a few holes.
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Old 07-18-2005, 09:46 PM
tacoshooter tacoshooter is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio 4/8 Premature Flop Muckage

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He claimed he had a full house but could not produce it?
Did he claim the flop was not QQ9?

Your story has a few holes.

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Huh? What holes?

The dealer mucked the flop and started pushing him the pot. He flipped up a nine at the same time. I yelled out and the dealer stopped pushing him the pot.

When Tilty Old Guy saw the dealer wasn't pushing the pot, he started talking about his full house although he didn't flip up the other card. Mucked the other card when I showed AQ and stormed off.

There was no claim that the flop was not QQ9.

Not sure why he said he had a boat and then didn't bet after she dealt the turn and the river.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:28 PM
Trainwreck Trainwreck is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio 4/8 Premature Flop Muckage

Angry geezer was lying sack, Angry geezers are a dime a dozen in Vegas.

Probably been playing 40 years+ and still stuck playing 4/8, that itself might put you on TILT. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Value bet his whiney butt, if only to assist him to actually leaving.

A group of us put some 75+ old coot on tilt by just TALKING at the table.

YMMV!

>TW<

Don't get the idea that I think all old people are geezers and coots, far from it, some of the nicest people I have met playing poker are older folks. *cheers!*
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: Bellagio 4/8 Premature Flop Muckage


A group of us put some 75+ old coot on tilt by just TALKING at the table.


^^^^
I've seen this alot recently, mostly at 4/8 and 6/12? You get a decent conversation going, and one of the geezers flips out becuase you're talking at a poker table. Oh the humanity!!
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:26 AM
sternroolz sternroolz is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio 4/8 Premature Flop Muckage

Heh, I was playing $3-6 a year or so ago at Mirage, waiting for a seat in the $10-20. A few of us were boozing it up, joking, and laughing. This old guy is just glaring at us and finally blurts out "No funny! No fun!".

Stunned for a second, we all burst out in complete laughter. "no funny, no fun" became the mantra for the rest of the night. I was having so much fun that I passed on the $10-20 game.

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A group of us put some 75+ old coot on tilt by just TALKING at the table.


^^^^
I've seen this alot recently, mostly at 4/8 and 6/12? You get a decent conversation going, and one of the geezers flips out becuase you're talking at a poker table. Oh the humanity!!

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