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Old 06-03-2005, 01:14 PM
AmarilloJim1 AmarilloJim1 is offline
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Default Re: TT in the SB Button raises pre-flop

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Since there is a 2 flush, I want to play aggressively so I don't get outdrawn.

Any flush draw is almost always going to have the odds to see the river in a pot that is raised pre-flop.

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Agreed, but I'm still going to play this flop more aggressively, otherwise I would go for the checkraise on the turn.
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Old 06-03-2005, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: TT in the SB Button raises pre-flop

Anyone who's chasing a flush is making us money. Why not give them a chance?
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Old 06-03-2005, 01:31 PM
AmarilloJim1 AmarilloJim1 is offline
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Default Re: TT in the SB Button raises pre-flop

You guys made good points and conviced me about the C/R; however, I would still re-raise pre-flop with the TT's.
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Old 06-03-2005, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: TT in the SB Button raises pre-flop

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I would have 3-bet on flop to elminate players.

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I assume you mean raise, since hero didn't lead the flop. Also, hand protection is the last thing you need to be worrying about here.

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I did mean raise, and yes I want to eliminate players because wired tens don't win as often unimproved.

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I'm a bit confused as to what you mean here now. If you made a typo and meant to say that you advocated a 3-bet preflop, I'm with you. If you're advocating a check-raise on the flop, then I disagree.

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Since there is a 2 flush, I want to play aggressively so I don't get outdrawn.

I don't quite understand where your coming from?

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You will never be able to fold a flush draw on this board, but you should not be concerned about this. You have a huge equity edge over everyone else in this hand, including flush draws. Your goal should be to get as many people to put in as many bets as possible in this hand.
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Old 06-03-2005, 03:40 PM
AmarilloJim1 AmarilloJim1 is offline
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Default Re: TT in the SB Button raises pre-flop

Yes, I am an advocate of 3-betting the flop.

On the flop, I originally thought a check raise was good; however, several people, including yourself, have convinced me otherwise.

Thanks for your input!
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Old 06-03-2005, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: TT in the SB Button raises pre-flop

3-bet this PF. You make UTG and CO face 2 cold and they may fold, adding their dead money to the pot.

Flop - Gotta lead out. You slowplayed preflop so no one is going to expect the monster you have and will likely give you action. Going for the C/R is bad here. It won't protect against the flush draw (they need ~5:1 and you're giving the next to act ~6:1) and you'll blow away the hands that are drawing dead. You should lead, you'll probably get one caller (maybe both) before button raises. You then 3-bet. Build the pot.
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Old 06-03-2005, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: TT in the SB Button raises pre-flop

3-bet TT. Reraise the flop, if the BB caps then there's a good chance you're looking at a pp, maybe Axs. Lead out on the turn to a non-club.
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Old 06-03-2005, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: TT in the SB Button raises pre-flop

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I don't like to 3 bet TT in the blinds and that's not my question but you can comment on that if you like.

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Uh oh! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] It doesn't matter whether or not you like to, DO IT! Do it because it's more fun to win more money; you want this heads up if possible with the button, and at Absolute Poker you just might accomplish that goal by 3-betting.

I don't like the flop check-raise because you're gonna scare off the button and blast everyone else out of the pot. Betting out is fine.
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Old 06-03-2005, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: TT in the SB Button raises pre-flop

Bet this flop, hoping that button will raise you. Then you 3-bet, ideally with trapped callers that will now be facing two more small bets.

I probably would have 3-bet this pre-flop as well.
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Old 06-03-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: TT in the SB Button raises pre-flop

Reraise pf. There's too much money to be made on TT to be letting these limpers off the hook cheaply.

Leading the flop is a must. You want as many bets going into this flop as possible. The limpers might fold the turn UI. The LP guy will probably raise and you have a brilliant trap. Checking was a no win situation here. If LP hadn't bet this flop for you it would be a total disaster. As it is you have a bad choice between blasting out the limpers or keeping the pot small. You cannot expect to regularly make up these small bets you are giving upon big bet streets.

Given the way you played it I would raise.
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