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Old 12-29-2005, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: Question about hand ranges & equity (calling vs. raising, yada yad

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ATo but its really pretty irrelevant. Anytime you have like 15x BB or less, moving allin is +EV with both of these hands. However ATo is a bit stronger, as you will likely be called less frequently due to hogging the ace.

Also I have no idea why you calculated for two random hands. How often are both players going to call you! I find that calculation to be impractical and basically pointless.

Overall it just doesn't matter, these hands are both powerhouses from the button with high blinds in comparison to stack sizes.

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Well, I didn't specify that this had to be an all-in situation. At least, I don't think I did.

And I'm not asking this question to specifically refer to the hands of ATo and KQs. This is more of a theoretical question. Should we assume that the better hand is the one that does best against the range that would call you? Or is the best hand the one that has the most preflop equity value? I lean toward the former in all-in situations, but I'm not sure about play before then.
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:05 AM
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This is more of a theoretical question. Should we assume that the better hand is the one that does best against the range that would call you?

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If you're pushing, this seems like the right course.
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Or is the best hand the one that has the most preflop equity value?

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I'm not sure it is of much value to base pre-flop equity on a hand's value against random hands (as you've doen in the opening post.
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I lean toward the former in all-in situations, but I'm not sure about play before then.

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Suited and connected hands gain value post-flop even when they have not been made. Flopping a four-flush or OESD is valuable. Holding a King and almost pairing when a Queen comes on the flop isn't quite the same.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:05 PM
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I'm not sure it is of much value to base pre-flop equity on a hand's value against random hands (as you've doen in the opening post.

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But until you're called, aren't all the hands you're about to face random? This reminds me of the wave/particle quantum theory experiment.
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