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Old 12-06-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Win rates of 1/2BB live dont translate to 3-6BB online, why?

This is a bit of an off-topic, but how do no-limit BB/100 rates compare with limit?

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Old 12-08-2005, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Win rates of 1/2BB live dont translate to 3-6BB online, why?

For whatever its worth, my winrate live is almost double that what it is online. Live you get better reads, are more focused on the one game, get tells, and really observe the players to the extent that you have insight into their thought process.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: Win rates of 1/2BB live dont translate to 3-6BB online, why?

The point is a range of 1-2 BB per one hundred hands (1-2 BB/100 Hands) is just describing your win rate. Online you would still win that same 1-2 BB per one hundred hands; however, you would play more hands per hour and therefore have a greater HOURLY win rate online.

Let's assume:

1. You beat a $10-$20 game for 2 BB/100 Hands.
2. You play in a live game that plays 30 Hands/Hour.
3. You play in an online game that plays 50 Hands/Hour.

If we examine the win rate in terms of hands played, it will be 2 BB/100 Hands regardless of the location of the game.

However, if we examine the HOURLY win rate at each location we reveal:

LIVE

2 BB 30 Hands .6 BB
--------- X ---------- = --------
100 Hands 1 Hour Hour

ONLINE

2 BB 50 Hands 1 BB
--------- X ---------- = --------
100 Hands 1 Hour Hour


This is why, if you play online and live, you must play three to four times your regular online stakes in a live game to sustain the same hourly win rate (in terms of cash) per hour in that live game.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: Win rates of 1/2BB live dont translate to 3-6BB online, why?

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What level are you playing live, and what level online? In my experience the 2-4 online game is a helluva lot tougher than a 2-4 live game.

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Exactly, imagine that you are newer to poker, or know that you just aren't that good. Where would you like to sit? Most likely the cheapest table.

Online the cheapest is $0.02/$0.04, $0.10/$0.20 and $0.25/0.50 (for some sites this appears to be the lowest).

B&M - the lowest is $2/$4 or $3/6, which seems cheap to a newbie gambler when it costs $15 min to play one gamble at the other casino games (roulette, etc.)

My first B&M experience was CircusCircus on a weekend trip. I was a beginner and it was a blast! I got drunk, played all night(literally), and played extremely poorly. I only bled 20BB. This may seem like a bad night to some, but you should have seen what I was betting. (I actually can't remember much of it). I passed out at the table too. So in my opinion, B&M is way easier. I have bled way more than 20BB playing much better at $1/$2 or $2/$4 on-line, trust me.

(It was $3/$6 at CircusCircus).
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