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Old 04-22-2005, 02:57 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: New Moneymaker Book --- Guy deserves credit

My favorite thing was that he describes the exact same hand that Harrington describes in "Harrington on Hold'em."

Pretty neat to read the same hand from 2 different participants.
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Old 04-22-2005, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: New Moneymaker Book --- Guy deserves credit

which one are you referring to?
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Old 04-22-2005, 10:48 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: New Moneymaker Book --- Guy deserves credit

The hand where Farha flops the set of nines and turns a boat after Harrington, Moneymaker and Vahedi all call his preflop raise.
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Old 04-23-2005, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: New Moneymaker Book --- Guy deserves credit

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I know I'm even jealous of Tyler D who came in 125...

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He busted out 126. Tyler could never make the top 125 [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 04-23-2005, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: New Moneymaker Book --- Guy deserves credit

I haven't read the book in question, and honestly I don't plan to anytime soon.
I give him credit for winning the WSOP, I'm happy he did. Not only did he play well enough to deserve it, I think his win did great things for the game.

However as far as his talent is concerned I do have to question it. Not because of his one or two suckouts during the WSOP, but because of his failure to follow up his big win with other strong performances.

Every time I've seen or read reports of MM play since the 2003 ME he's been far from world class.

Of course, I'm not saying he has to win another main event, but I think consistency is necessary to be considered a great poker player, and IMO MM has no exhibited that.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: New Moneymaker Book --- Guy deserves credit

He's finished top 20 in at least 2 other WPT events since then. Yourself?
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: New Moneymaker Book --- Guy deserves credit

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He's finished top 20 in at least 2 other WPT events since then. Yourself?

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I'm tired of this response. My unwillingness or inability to pay $10000 to enter a WPT event doesn't render me incapable of observing and inferring things.

Do you think no one is allowed to comment on anything unless they themselves can do better? Am I not allowed to say that Vince Carter is not a great player because, I, personally, have never been in the All-Star Game?

(Remember, it may be that I'm financially incapable of entering a WPT event rather than just unwilling. Even if it were otherwise, the point would stand.)
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:44 AM
Martin Aigner Martin Aigner is offline
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Default Re: New Moneymaker Book --- Guy deserves credit

Most 2+2ers who had been around long enough on this forum considered Greg Raymer an extremly tough or even world class player long before his win of the WSOP. Now ever since his victory he didnīt make a final table in a 10k event. (To my knowledge this is) Still most wouldnīt change their mind and say that Greg isnīt as strong as they thought him to be.

On the other side there is MM. Didnīt he just finish 2nd in a WPT event last year? Guess one could say that this is a pretty impressive feat, isnīt it? So how can you say that he has no consistency?

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Old 04-26-2005, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: New Moneymaker Book --- Guy deserves credit

I am also greatly enjoying this book... it's definitely worth a read. I've gained some respect for Moneymaker because of how he has carried himself through this. Modest guy.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: New Moneymaker Book --- Guy deserves credit

yeah i just finished reading it too,it certainly makes for a good story...
as for the arguement as to how good a player he is,it seems that technically when he was playing in the WSOP he mightnt have been the best player,but he seems to have had a very good instinct and feel for the game..
he came across well in that he is willing to own up to his own shortcomings as a player at the time,and at the same time he evidently took advantage of them and played to his strenghts and image very well...
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