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Old 12-28-2005, 05:41 AM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default 2 x 2 pair/OOP/monotones

Villian in Hand #1 seems a bit of a Donk. Hand #2, villian looks like a LAG. I need some help getting out of these messes. I made a bad read in Hand #1 and I think I had visions of that hand dancing thru my head when Hand #2 happened. Smack me str8 plz.


Hand #1

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (Full Table, 8 handed)

CO ($96)
Button ($75.85)
Hero ($215)
BB ($83)
UTG ($112.90)
UTG+1 ($85.25)
MP1 ($34.90)
MP2 ($232.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP2 calls $5, Button folds.

Turn: ($15) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $18</font>, Hero calls $9.

River: ($51) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50.

Final Pot: $151

Hand #2

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed)

MP ($61.24)
Button ($33.15)
SB ($217.67)
Hero ($246.40)
UTG ($189.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $1, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($3) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($31) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $35</font>, Hero calls $35.

River: ($101) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50.

Final Pot: $201
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:44 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: 2 x 2 pair/OOP/monotones

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Villian in Hand #1 seems a bit of a Donk. Hand #2, villian looks like a LAG. I need some help getting out of these messes. I made a bad read in Hand #1 and I think I had visions of that hand dancing thru my head when Hand #2 happened. Smack me str8 plz.


Hand #1

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (Full Table, 8 handed)

CO ($96)
Button ($75.85)
Hero ($215)
BB ($83)
UTG ($112.90)
UTG+1 ($85.25)
MP1 ($34.90)
MP2 ($232.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP2 calls $5, Button folds.

Turn: ($15) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $18</font>, Hero calls $9.

River: ($51) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50.

Final Pot: $151



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I saw 2 spots to fold...

the min-raise on the turn, looks like you're drawing against a straight or flush.

the river the villain lead pot... I muck that w/o a STRONG hand.
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:45 AM
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Default Re: 2 x 2 pair/OOP/monotones

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Hand #2

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed)

MP ($61.24)
Button ($33.15)
SB ($217.67)
Hero ($246.40)
UTG ($189.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $1, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($3) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($31) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $35</font>, Hero calls $35.

River: ($101) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50.

Final Pot: $201

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On the turn

On the flop it looks like Qx and it looks like the villain has two pair or better, I'd assume QJ.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:13 PM
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I'm blocking the river and folding to a raise in hand 1. Villain could easily have hit top pair and thinks its best with his A flush draw. Turn scares me in hand 2 and I'm probably folding.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: 2 x 2 pair/OOP/monotones

in hand 1 bet 12 on the turn and fold to any raise.

alternatively, you could consider check calling the turn.

yes he can hit a heart to bust you. too bad. I lose a small limped pot. Often there are pots small enough to not warrant protecting.
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