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Old 12-06-2005, 10:12 PM
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

SB ($180.70)
BB ($623.81)
UTG ($400)
MP :#A500AF(villain)/ ($352.10)
Hero ($593)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP :#A500AF(villain)/ raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $21, MP :#A500AF(villain)/ calls $17.

Flop: ($77) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, villain checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($77) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $35</font>, villain calls $35, Hero calls $35.

River: ($182) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">villain bets $35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $125</font>, BB folds, villain calls $90.

Final Pot: $432
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: another thin value bet post

whats with the flop line?
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: another thin value bet post

theres no draws I need to protect against and I want to convince villains I have something like JJ or QQ or KK.
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:22 PM
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theres no draws I need to protect against and I want to convince villains I have something like JJ or QQ or KK.

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ok. but, also, do you have reads on the villain? i.e. would they be calling ur PF raise with Ax? if so i think a 1/3 pot bet on flop is good idea to see if you can get a raise out of BB (if you can make them think you have KK).

also, am i correct ur folding to a BB raise on river?
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: another thin value bet post

if bb raises the river, yes I'm folding. but hes almost never 3 bets.

bb is kind of loose and like to bust me with mediocre hands.

villain just got bluffed out by me a few hands ago but I did not show bluff.
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:27 PM
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Checking flop is fine, but only so that you can raise the turn. Raise the turn!
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:27 PM
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if bb raises the river, yes I'm folding. but hes almost never 3 bets.

bb is kind of loose and like to bust me with mediocre hands.

villain just got bluffed out by me a few hands ago but I did not show bluff.

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i &lt;3 the line then. a lot.
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:33 PM
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Checking flop is fine, but only so that you can raise the turn. Raise the turn!

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yeah maybe I should have.

2 people with 3 outers become 6 outs against me eh?

I'll wait a while longer until giving results.
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:34 PM
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How do you know one or both of them dont have 8 or 9 outs?
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:36 PM
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hmm good point. didn't consider spade draw.

yeah I think turn raise is best.
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