turning donk

admiralfluff · #1 12-05-2005, 06:43 AM

Villain is 34/20/2.2 over 400 hands. Pretty aggro, but not totally insane. He has an aggressive impression of me, and I think he could 3 bet down to AT/9s, 77

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, MP 3-bets, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls.

I considered c/c b/c. I considered turn c/r. I considered 3 betting his riase. I thought he might see a river donk coming, and take free turn with underpair.

ArturiusX · #2 12-05-2005, 07:10 AM

I'd check-raise the flop instead, try and go for bets there. Sometimes when you slow play like this, and he doesnt have an ace, they lose their mouth off the hook.

#3 12-05-2005, 08:07 AM

cap preflop. you have a slight edge over his stated range, and it will be easier to know where you stand postflop if you keep the initiative.
the way you played it, i check-raise the flop.

admiralfluff · #4 12-05-2005, 08:14 AM

With this player I maintain more control over the hand by not capping preflop. I think this outweighs the small edge I forfeit by not capping. He has position and I should plan on seeing showdown, as it is quite possible he could push me off of the best hand.

#5 12-05-2005, 08:19 AM

there's no reason to give up preflop equity.
if you miss the flop, you can check-call the whole way if you are intent on showing down, and it may end up being cheaper because cap/check will confuse the hell out of him.

admiralfluff · #6 12-05-2005, 08:22 AM

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he doesnt have an ace, they lose their mouth off the hook.

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I thought this was why I c/c'd the flop. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

What's my plan if he 3-bets the flop c/r? He might do this without an A, and go into c/f c/f mode. Or he might do this with a weaker A. This guy was tricky and aggressive, but I wouldn't be that surprised if it was one of you crazy LAGs.

admiralfluff · #7 12-05-2005, 08:26 AM

my equity edge is really, really, quite tiny. HE has position, and I gain a tactical advantage by not capping. I leave my hand range ambiguous, so he is more likely to misread me later.

POKhER · #8 12-05-2005, 08:40 AM

I like the turn action, Bet Call avoids a horrible 3betted situation but you still get an idea on how much he likes his hand.

i think this hand is played pretty well, river card?

p.s. I think you're often ahead here so i may also bet the river.

jba · #9 12-05-2005, 10:16 AM

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I like the turn action, Bet Call avoids a horrible 3betted situation but you still get an idea on how much he likes his hand.

i think this hand is played pretty well, river card?

p.s. I think you're often ahead here so i may also bet the river.

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I agree with my sexually frustrated friend here

smells like free showdown. However being out of position I don't like 3betting the turn -- our hand is not worth 5 big bets

mungpo · #10 12-05-2005, 02:29 PM

Bet the river again.