Auto Shufflers at Mirage

[gerf]

I would suspect that auto shufflers are much better at creating random decks than human dealers.

[David]

Netx thing you know the subject of "random shuffles" will be the hot new topic here like in the internet forum. [img]/forums/images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

[Nick B.]

Don't you think autoshufflers will make the games tighter. Why play this hand when it will only be a minute until I get another one? Personally I don't think I would like an autoshuffler. I would rather just have dealers do their job, that is what they are paid (and tipped) for.

[MaxPower]

I assume that these are the Deckmate shufflers from Shufflemaster? What is the acceptance level among the players?

I recently bought stock in the company, so I'd like to see these shufflers catch on.

[Clarkmeister]

"Don't you think autoshufflers will make the games tighter. Why play this hand when it will only be a minute until I get another one"

LOL, they save like 15 seconds per hand. Its not like live games will suddenly go Turbo. People who like to play lots of hands are still going to play lots of hands.

I've played several hours with the shufflers at Boulder. They are fast and seamless.

[budman]

I am going to the Mirage March 20. I hope I get to play at a table with the shufflers. They sound great.

[AmericanAirlines]

Hi Max,
Well here's what I noticed as a 21 dealer, not poker.

The shufflers that are not continuous, nobody cares one way or the other to much as an average player. Mgmt and players who think they have an edge (at 21) like them because they are faster, despite some players belief these things can somehow stack the deck.

With continuous shufflers, well it means Card Counting is completely invalidated. The only strategy against a deck that's always shuffled is basic strategy.

But, at least at Circus Circus mgmt. tried them and concluded the continuous shufflers were costing them money. I've heard some rumblings that the early ones did have some sort of exploitable shortcoming. But I tend to think that even a continuous shuffler without a defect, assuming a truly random shuffle, will tend to reduce variance over a hand shuffled deck... so players won't bust out as often... so you still might see where your cashflow as a casino, becomes less per unit time. Not sure on that though. Just a thought.

Bottom line, the casinos are buying them, that's all that counts, no?

But, since they don't exactly whereout every day, I suppose there's a saturation point in terms of revenues to Shufflemaster.... so your stock play probably depends more on whether market saturation has been reached or not.

Sincerely,
AA
AA

[medloH]

Anyone know how these auto shufflers are working out in the Mirage Poker room? And, when can we expect them on the 10 20, 20 40 Holdem games there?

[Howard Burroughs]

Well Bellagio has them on three games now (one of which is on the big game up on table one).


btw, The Mirage game on table #24 has been O/8 of late (instead of hold'em). That's where one of their two machines is located.

Best of Luck

Howard