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Old 09-17-2005, 02:23 AM
bugstud bugstud is offline
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Default Re: $2500 NL hand vs. Vinny Vinh at the Borgata Open

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hijack as a term sucks. it's not incredibly rarely used, but the people who are trying to make it more used suck. as human beings i mean they suck. this term is useless, as co+1 is even a shorter thing to type than "hijack." it not only is less well known, but well, it's less well known AND there was a perfectly good way to describe that seat before people started calling it the hijack.

i think that the point is people thought cutoff sounded cool, and well now there should be a name for other seats where you take action often. since the most frequent action seats are the late position and blinds, the next up after blinds button and cutoff was "the hijack." personally i think the world would be better off if people continued to call it co+1 or btn+2 or "2 off the button" or whathaveyou. hijack will forever seem to me to be the "man i so desperately wish i was one of the cool kids" type of words.

oh well.

nh yaser.

citanul

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the mid-high limit people I believe started it and frankly I like it [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 09-17-2005, 05:12 AM
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Default Re: $2500 NL hand vs. Vinny Vinh at the Borgata Open

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hijack as a term sucks. it's not incredibly rarely used, but the people who are trying to make it more used suck. as human beings i mean they suck. this term is useless, as co+1 is even a shorter thing to type than "hijack." it not only is less well known, but well, it's less well known AND there was a perfectly good way to describe that seat before people started calling it the hijack.

i think that the point is people thought cutoff sounded cool, and well now there should be a name for other seats where you take action often. since the most frequent action seats are the late position and blinds, the next up after blinds button and cutoff was "the hijack." personally i think the world would be better off if people continued to call it co+1 or btn+2 or "2 off the button" or whathaveyou. hijack will forever seem to me to be the "man i so desperately wish i was one of the cool kids" type of words.

oh well.

nh yaser.

citanul

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Well, technically speaking, hijack would be equivalent to CO-1, not CO+1 (which would be the button). Or alternatively a MP+x depending upon the number of players.
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Old 09-17-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: $2500 NL hand vs. Vinny Vinh at the Borgata Open

Didn't it start with a Tommy Angelo post?
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Old 09-17-2005, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: $2500 NL hand vs. Vinny Vinh at the Borgata Open

Reraise preflop.
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:32 PM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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Default Re: $2500 NL hand vs. Vinny Vinh at the Borgata Open

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Reraise preflop.

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Why would I want to do that?

I'd only get action from hands I'm losing to, and he'll fold if he has something like 76s.
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: $2500 NL hand vs. Vinny Vinh at the Borgata Open

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Reraise preflop.



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Why would I want to do that?

I'd only get action from hands I'm losing to, and he'll fold if he has something like 76s.


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Because JJ is a big hand in late position action against a loose player. Here it works better that you called, but 76s could beat you. If he is putting a lot of loose reraises, he will have to fold a lot of hands stronger than 76s to a third raise or put the money in behind.
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Old 09-20-2005, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: $2500 NL hand vs. Vinny Vinh at the Borgata Open

I like it, i wouldn't say its 100% "standard" though, calling preflop is a nice move. You got the flop you wanted, so checkraise is the only way to go imo, since you're 90% sure to get a bet from him.

You should be weary of his reraise preflop, but against an aggressive player you can't lay down here. Against a tight player, I'd just call preflop trying to flop a set, and probably get out of the way unless I caught a Jack.
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Old 09-20-2005, 12:55 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: $2500 NL hand vs. Vinny Vinh at the Borgata Open

it's good for notetaking, as in "open J9 HJ b200" (that's 100/200, for those not in the know)
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Old 09-20-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: $2500 NL hand vs. Vinny Vinh at the Borgata Open

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You should be weary of his reraise preflop, but against an aggressive player you can't lay down here. Against a tight player, I'd just call preflop trying to flop a set, and probably get out of the way unless I caught a Jack.

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This is pretty late position action. I definately wouldn't reraise a tight player, but I think just playing for a set is too tight. Only a rock would need QQ-AA to reraise a CO raiser.
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Old 09-20-2005, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: $2500 NL hand vs. Vinny Vinh at the Borgata Open

I was gonna say... HJ is shorter then MP+ or CO- or whatever. Its also easier to say.
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