Pocket kings double paired board, find a value bet?

thesharpie · #1 05-03-2005, 03:24 AM

UTG+2 has about 75%VP$IP and .3 postflop AF after ~20 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 caps, Hero calls, SB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (18 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 bets, MP2 folds, Hero raises, SB folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (11 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (11 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 11 BB

bottomset · #2 05-03-2005, 03:39 AM

uh MP2 would make the buddy list

uh 20hands stats aren't even worth posting

bet the turn, most pairs will call, Ahigh will likely as well

DeathDonkey · #3 05-03-2005, 03:44 AM

If the pot were smaller I'd play this the same, given the preflop action I think you have to bet the turn because you'd like him to incorrectly fold his flush draw.

-DeathDonkey

dozer · #4 05-03-2005, 03:48 AM

Looks like UTG+2 could be betting a flush draw.
I would bet the turn you don't want to be giving a free card if villain was on a flush draw.If called I would check behind on the river.

thesharpie · #5 05-03-2005, 05:02 AM

Fold to a check raise on the turn?

FlopMe · #6 05-03-2005, 05:28 AM

I would bet the turn here and fold to a check-raise. UTG+2 would seem to be on a flush draw or have a smaller pocket pair. I would check through on the river after the ace hit.

moot · #7 05-03-2005, 08:14 AM

Once in a while you'll run into the problem of someone who planned on slowing playing their trip twos, but then gets scared when the second jack falls. So he'll call down and you'll lose.

But overall I still think a value bet is in order.

I like betting the turn and folding to a check raise.

And if you don't do that, I'd definitely bet this river. There's a double paired board plus an ace. A lot of players will call with any two cards for the sheer chance at a split.

Haha, reminds me of a sit and go hand. There's a boat on the board and its been checked all the way, 4-handed. Finally on the river I decide to bet 120 into a 60 chip pot, just to see what would happen (I know it was dumb). Every single person called, and everyone played board. The last person to call risked 120 to win AT BEST a fourth of 60 (or 15). I guess these weren't "thinking" opponents.

@bsolute_luck · #8 05-03-2005, 08:43 AM

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Fold to a check raise on the turn?

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hmmm...depends on your read, but with 75% hands played, i think it'd be safe to fold. a bluffer, call down.