"Protecting" my hand?

manik · #1 05-03-2005, 01:49 AM

UTG+1 is fishy, 51 vpip, .6 pfr ~200 hands
MP3 just sat down.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.5.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 (poster) checks, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (14.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets, CO folds, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB

After looking at this hand again, I'm wondering if I should have just called the flop, then raised the turn when no diamond falls. (I assume that BB would bet out again, otherwise I would just bet.) but I'm not sure.

And then my raise on the river.. does that seem like MP3 just made a backdoor flush or straight? Or am I just seeing ghosts?

Thx.

Entity · #2 05-03-2005, 01:49 AM

You played this hand perfectly. Now it's your job to figure out why.

Shillx · #3 05-03-2005, 04:10 AM

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You played this hand perfectly. Now it's your job to figure out why.

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stlip · #4 05-03-2005, 04:56 AM

Why don't you want to take advantage of your position with a preflop raise. It sets up a chance for a free card play on the flop or the turn, which is a big advantage with the small PP if you don't flop your set but can take another shot at it for free. It also gives you the chance to win the pot with a simple bet after a rag flop. What am I missing?

@bsolute_luck · #5 05-03-2005, 08:41 AM

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Why don't you want to take advantage of your position with a preflop raise. It sets up a chance for a free card play on the flop or the turn, which is a big advantage with the small PP if you don't flop your set but can take another shot at it for free. It also gives you the chance to win the pot with a simple bet after a rag flop. What am I missing?

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i don't think raising preflop will "get you a free card" on the flop and your pair is so low, it is next to impossible for a field this large to #1 fold to your raise #2 have the flop miss anyone.

NickRegino · #6 05-03-2005, 01:54 AM

You played it right.

skoal2k4 · #7 05-03-2005, 01:55 AM

I got in trouble with the whole "waiting for the turn to protect my hand" strategy. I'd link to the thread about it, but I don't want to search for it... here's the short version. Basically, draws are going to stay to the end no matter how you bet anyway, so bet and raise for value for those time the flush doesn't hit.

aK13 · #8 05-03-2005, 01:55 AM

Bottom set with lots of players, this seems pretty straightforward...

bottomset · #9 05-03-2005, 03:49 AM

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Bottomset with lots of players, this seems pretty straightforward...

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woohoo, there should be more of these posts I think [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

manik · #10 05-03-2005, 02:03 AM

This hand was bugging me; it just didn't feel right. Thanks for the replies, and a boost of confidence with that play.