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Old 08-16-2005, 11:23 AM
thejameser thejameser is offline
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Default Re: how do you handle a friend on tilt gambling away his $$ till its gone?

play HU with him
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: how do you handle a friend on tilt gambling away his $$ till its g

It's his money and his problem, not yours. His problem is not your responsibility, and he has every right to gamble away every penny he owns and there's really nothing you can do about it.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:30 PM
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Poker is gambling.

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Old 08-16-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: how do you handle a friend on tilt gambling away his $$ till its g

if you r a losing player..yes

if you win consistantly and exercise smart Money management, then ..NO
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Old 08-16-2005, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: how do you handle a friend on tilt gambling away his $$ till its g

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if you win consistantly and exercise smart Money management, then ..NO

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even then it is still gambling. it just happens to be positive EV gambling.
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Old 08-16-2005, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: how do you handle a friend on tilt gambling away his $$ till its g

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if you win consistantly and exercise smart Money management, then ..NO

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even then it is still gambling. it just happens to be positive EV gambling.

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Didn't Vincent Lepore beat this topic up enough? It's semantics.
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Old 08-16-2005, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: how do you handle a friend on tilt gambling away his $$ till its g

Please. Poker is a gambling game, it just happens to be one where good players have a longterm positive expectation.

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Old 08-16-2005, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: how do you handle a friend on tilt gambling away his $$ till its g

i guess its all in the eye of the beholder, but if you use this analogy, wouldnt every bond and equity trader on wall street be a gambler then?

wouldnt many small business owners (such as my friend i talked about who owns a small family restaurant) be gamblers because some days the customers don't come into their store/restaurant and they take a loss for the day..etc.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: how do you handle a friend on tilt gambling away his $$ till its g

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i guess its all in the eye of the beholder, but if you use this analogy, wouldnt every bond and equity trader on wall street be a gambler then?

wouldnt many small business owners (such as my friend i talked about who owns a small family restaurant) be gamblers because some days the customers don't come into their store/restaurant and they take a loss for the day..etc.

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gam·ble Audio pronunciation of "gamble" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gmbl)
v. gam·bled, gam·bling, gam·bles
v. intr.

1.
1. To bet on an uncertain outcome, as of a contest.
2. To play a game of chance for stakes.

Stock traders are not making and losing money due to outcomes that are determined by random turns of cards, dice, etc. While they may understand the forces which control their investments no more than a craps player understands the odds of his chance game, they are INVESTING. Gambling involves games of chance, where specific outcomes are determined at random.

You cannot predict when a slot machine will hit, when the dice are hot, when 00 will hit on roulette, or when your K will hit the turn -- at least not with any more certainty than that laws of probability allow.

Meanwhile, business and investment outcomes are determined by non-random economic factors that, while difficult to understand, can be studied and predicted with success. Stock prices do not rise and fall at random -- cards do.
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Old 08-16-2005, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: how do you handle a friend on tilt gambling away his $$ till its g

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Meanwhile, business and investment outcomes are determined by non-random economic factors that, while difficult to understand, can be studied and predicted with success. Stock prices do not rise and fall at random -- cards do.

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I think you have some shortcommings in your 'logic' and I would tear it to pieces if I weren't playing so many games right now.

However stockbroking is more volatile than a great pokerplayers game, and random, nothing is random, just sometimes all the facts are not known by you.

ToT
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