Flop Decision with an overpair

MaxPower · #1 08-10-2005, 12:01 AM

PartyPoker - $30/$60 - 10 players

BB is a tight aggresive player, but he is the type who likes to cold-call and get overaggressive
MP3 and CO are both typical LAGs

Hero is UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

PreFlop
UTG folds, Hero RAISES, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 Calls, LP1 folds, CO Calls, Button folds
SB folds, BB Calls

(4 players) FLOP: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: 4.25 BB )
BB checks, Hero BETS, MP3 Calls, CO RAISES
BB 3-bets, [b][i]Hero ...

I'm curious what you put the BB on here?

DcifrThs · #2 08-10-2005, 12:15 AM

flush draw w/ overs trying to clean up outs or a pair trying to fold overs or a bigger pair.

-Barron

AceHigh · #3 08-10-2005, 07:15 AM

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I'm curious what you put the BB on here?

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Acxc, would be my first guess. He'd like to knock out yours or any better Ace hands.

mc1023 · #4 08-10-2005, 07:38 AM

most likely Acxc or two overs and a flush draw.

maybe 56 or a pair like 77-JJ

capp and re-evaluate on the turn.

Schneids · #5 08-10-2005, 07:43 AM

I cap and don't even try to begin the hand reading until the turn.

Basically, I would expect BB to check 3bet anything he was planning on continuing to play on with.... Club draw, his own pocket pair over the board, trips. I personally don't think he check/3bets 65, however.

MaxPower · #6 08-10-2005, 04:40 PM

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I cap and don't even try to begin the hand reading until the turn.

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That is exactly the advice I needed to hear. I usually do forget about trying to read hands until the turn.

The hand the BB had in this case was A3o with the ace of clubs. Is there any way that this is a good flop 3-bet. I can't see any reason for it. Seems like a fold to me.

daryn · #7 08-10-2005, 07:45 PM

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I cap and don't even try to begin the hand reading until the turn.

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That is exactly the advice I needed to hear. I usually do forget about trying to read hands until the turn.

The hand the BB had in this case was A3o with the ace of clubs. Is there any way that this is a good flop 3-bet. I can't see any reason for it. Seems like a fold to me.

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of course his play is poor

Luv2DriveTT · #8 08-10-2005, 10:04 PM

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I cap and don't even try to begin the hand reading until the turn.

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That is exactly the advice I needed to hear. I usually do forget about trying to read hands until the turn.

The hand the BB had in this case was A3o with the ace of clubs. Is there any way that this is a good flop 3-bet. I can't see any reason for it. Seems like a fold to me.

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Agreed. You said yourself "BB is a tight aggressive player, but he is the type who likes to cold-call and get overaggressive ". Looks like he was a bit overzealous in trying to get the hands heads up against the CO LAG. Looks like he was being way overaggressive to me.

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