k10o in the sb

Victor · #1 11-26-2005, 01:18 AM

button is 30/20 pain in the ass. its seems he has been taking shots at me. it may appear i have been backing down as i have been folding my nothings. i may just be paranoid

button opens and i 3bet k10o in the sb.

flop is j 8 5. i bet, button raises, i call?

turn is a 10. i check and call?

river is an ace. i bet...?

aba20 · #2 11-26-2005, 01:42 AM

I really liked your line in these tough spots. I don't know if it is right but I would have check raise the turn. You know he will raise your flop bet with any J, 8, 5, straight draw and even sometimes air. So you are likely to be ahead on the turn. Getting three bet really sucks but you might have to pay it off depending on the laggyness of the opponent.

Surfbullet · #3 11-26-2005, 01:58 AM

I like a turn c/r as well, given the metagame benefits and the fact that he'll have made a worse calling hand often.

Surf

Danenania · #4 11-26-2005, 02:08 AM

Looks good. I'm not keen on a turn c/r. I think it lets him fold worse hands and hurt us with better ones.

Another option if you feel he's going to give your 3-bet no respect and/or probably call down with any A-high is to call PF and go from there. Depends on BB of course.

baronzeus · #5 11-26-2005, 02:10 AM

i generally c/c the river...what if he has a hand like Q7 that will bluff the A river but can't call a bet? just give him a chance to bluff one more time...i think he will a lot.

also i dont really like a turn c/r too much, although i do it on occasion against certain situations

TheMetetron · #6 11-26-2005, 02:11 AM

I c/r the turn a good percentage of the time, especially if someone is getting out of hand. Check/call isn't bad though.

Given the river, I bet/fold if I c/r the turn or check/call if I check/called the turn.

TStoneMBD · #7 11-26-2005, 02:15 AM

not a fan of the river bet. he will often check behind a jack and probably isnt paying off an 8. he definitely isnt folding a jack.

Danenania · #8 11-26-2005, 02:18 AM

Yeah you're right I think. Didn't consider him checking behind a Jack. Though you might underestimate how often he pays off with a low pair. People can't fold to river donks.

Victor · #9 11-26-2005, 02:33 AM

i never even considered cring the turn. i think he can get away from the garbage easily.

aba20 · #10 11-26-2005, 02:56 AM

he will probably muck his garbage but I bet you get called down from any 8, 5 and even A-high.