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Old 11-10-2005, 05:40 PM
Spicymoose Spicymoose is offline
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Default 3-betting AQo from the SB

PRF was 63/30/2 after 50 or so hands. Other Villain is unknown.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (9 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

Do you call a river bet?
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: 3-betting AQo from the SB

I really don't see a 7:1 chance of being ahead. Both QT and hearts are complete.
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: 3-betting AQo from the SB

QT doesn't check the turn.

Since hero has the ace of hearts the most common heart draw hands already have a pair and again, don't check the turn. They bet again to protect their pair, and possibly to take a free SD. [EDIT: I misread the action, so my comment about raising is irrelevant. But I still think that most suited hands that Villian would have already have a pair.]

That turn check doesn't make much sense at all. So I'd call the river.
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: 3-betting AQo from the SB

It probably means he wants to take his hand to showdown but doesn't want to pay off a check-raise. There's nothing you beat here, unless this guy is consistently pounding every flop with airballs.
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: 3-betting AQo from the SB

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It probably means he wants to take his hand to showdown but doesn't want to pay off a check-raise. There's nothing you beat here, unless this guy is consistently pounding every flop with airballs.

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Please give us a likely hand after checking the turn.
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: 3-betting AQo from the SB

Underpair maybe?
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: 3-betting AQo from the SB

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Underpair maybe?

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I suppose TT or 88 might make this move.

Would those hands bet the river though?
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:06 PM
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Any pair or PP without a K in it.
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: 3-betting AQo from the SB

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Any pair or PP without a K in it.

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I don't see the logic of these hands giving a free card on the turn and then betting a somewhat scary river. Or are we assuming our villain may not be logical?
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:10 PM
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I don't see the logic of these hands giving a free card on the turn and then betting a somewhat scary river. Or are we assuming our villain may not be logical?

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63/30/2

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I'd say that'd be a fair assement to make.

You can beat a pure bluff. Have you seen this player bluff frequently? This would be a very difficult flop to bluff after your 3 bet.
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