QJs, facing preflop raise

Boolean · #1 09-02-2005, 12:34 AM

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Reads: preflop raiser is a TAG. MP3 is a LAG.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, MP1 raises, MP3 calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

I have a backdoor flush draw with 2 overs. The TAG is raising about 10% of his hands, so I'm not going to give him credit for a pocket pair that beats me. Still, in this raised pot with all of these cold-callers, if I'm going to continue, I'll have to protect my hand. So I bet into the preflop raiser. Good play? No?

Turn: (8 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls, MP1 folds.

I pick up my flush draw and it's 5:1 to me to call. Fine.

River: (13 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Easy call, playing the board for the straight.

Final Pot: 15 BB

Vote4Pedro · #2 09-02-2005, 12:37 AM

Explain your frop bet?

Boolean · #3 09-02-2005, 12:39 AM

The preflop raiser was pretty aggressive before the flop. I figured if I bet into him, he'd raise and protect my hand for me. Should I just check/call instead providing that I have the odds?

closer2313 · #4 09-02-2005, 12:40 AM

I dont understand the flop at all. You dont have any sort of a hand to protect, you are drawing. I think its pretty unlikely you are gonna clean up your overcard outs because the PFR probably has you slaughtered with something like AK-AJ/AA-TT. All I see is you putting in 2 bets where you should be putting in 1 max.

Boolean · #5 09-02-2005, 12:44 AM

So, assume that the preflop raiser is on the button, should I just check/call that flop?

Edit: What I mean is, what do you consider before you determine whether or not it's profitable to invest an extra bet with your overcards? I do have a backdoor draw, but the flop is not quite ragged. Should the fact that the board is quite coordinated make this a check/call instead?

Vote4Pedro · #6 09-02-2005, 12:44 AM

You don't have anything to "protect"

Entity · #7 09-02-2005, 12:44 AM

Check the flop. Then. after the PFR bets, fold.

Rob

Vote4Pedro · #8 09-02-2005, 12:45 AM

Does his positioning strengthen your robust Q-hi?