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Old 08-07-2005, 12:21 AM
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Default JJ, facing unknown and loose/passive

PF raiser is an unknown. Turn raiser is loose/passive. I think I played this a little too aggressive on the flop. My thought processes were since the calling station was padding the pot, I can cap and slow down on the turn/river. Instead he wakes up on the turn representing the straight and I have to lay it down.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero folds...

My thoughts are, on a coordinated flop like this, it's possible I can have the best hand, but the draws can likely make my equity too low on the flop to raise for value. What should I do in this situation against an unknown who doesn't seem to be slowing down?
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Old 08-07-2005, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: JJ, facing unknown and loose/passive

Easy fold
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Old 08-07-2005, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: JJ, facing unknown and loose/passive

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Easy fold

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On? Why? I don't mean to be rude but that's just silly. :P

Edit: Well, my questions aren't on the turn. That is an easy fold. My question is more on my flop play. Whether I should call and raise a safe turn card.
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Old 08-07-2005, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: JJ, facing unknown and loose/passive

I don't think you can worry about SB having the straight since he raised preflop. Capping the flop depends on your read on the SB. What range of hands do you put him/her on? I wouldn't cap it on the flop. I'd just call down against an unknown. On the turn fold it easily [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-07-2005, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: JJ, facing unknown and loose/passive

I think the flop cap is just hemmoraging cash. You're behind just about everything this guy 3-bets except maybe AK.

I call villain's 3-bet and fold the turn unimproved facing 2 cold.
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