Interesting Hand #1

[JaBlue]

Again you really needed to think about how you'd handle a river bet when you decided to check the turn. For what it's worth I think the decision is very close here, which is what sucks about playing against LAGs. I would call though

[Malachii]

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I think checking the flop is a good starting point.

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[element00]

imho there's way too many hands that can beat you to called PSB on the river.

[Isura]

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I think checking the flop is a good starting point.

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Check flop, raise turn if he bets is a line I take in the right situation against this type of lag. Especially since likes to bluff more than value bet, this induces a bigger mistake imo than betting the flop. If he checks the turn, I'm checking again and calling up to a PSB on the river.

[xorbie]

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Again you really needed to think about how you'd handle a river bet when you decided to check the turn. For what it's worth I think the decision is very close here, which is what sucks about playing against LAGs. I would call though

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I checked behind with the intention of calling $50-$60 on the river UI. I was definitely not expecting this large a bet.

[Riposte]

Hey xorbie, very interesting hand. It almost makes me *angry* for some reason. I played with some bizarro-world LAGs like this today and I just couldn't figure them out.

What do you think about betting the turn? I think it might make everything easier. Maybe 3/4 pot or so. If he raises, easy fold. If he calls and checks the river, awesome, you can check behind. If he calls and bets into you on the river, I think we can fold here too knowing we're beat.

[GoCubsGo]

I probably play this the same way. Turn check is good but you have to remember that it will invite a bluff on the river. I think you're ahead enough on the river to make a call profitable.

[orange]

Argh..I can't decide whether to check or bet the turn.

2 Reasons for betting-
-You can bet and fold to a raise, and you are fairly sure you are beat.
-It may give you a free/cheaper showdown.

reasons for not betting/checking the turn-
-Pot control
-Free [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] look (maybe Q is good here?)
-Checking with position and intending to call a bet is often best when stacks are this deep IMO

I don't know. I call this river usually, and play it the same way you do.

[xorbie]

I was taken aback by the bet size. My gut told me call, but I really didn't want to get back to being an avg stack and not being able to take this guy for everything later. Maybe not the best reason, but I think it does make this closer to a fold than otherwise.

Anyway he shows QK[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I type "nh sir, you have big bigger balls than I do".

Honestly though there's no way he bets this big with a flush.

[amoeba]

everybody says bet this turn but nobody says how much.

I don't think you should be worried about flush as it happens as often as a lower pocket pair flopping a set.