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Old 10-17-2005, 01:36 PM
sourbeaver sourbeaver is offline
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Default QQ - another FlopOnly hand for Cpt. Handsome

None of them fancy reads. Captain H would like to play some turns and rivers, but Smelly Villain says NO !... NO!


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO ($25)
Button ($27.35)
SB ($9.55)
Hero ($25.63)
UTG ($3.95)
UTG+1 ($35.96)
UTG+2 ($25.55)
MP1 ($25.35)
MP2 ($9.75)
MP3 ($5.76)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls $2.25.

Flop: ($5.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, Villain pushes $22.50, Hero calls $17.50.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($48.35) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $48.35
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Old 10-17-2005, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: AA - another FlopOnly hand for Cpt. Handsome

so he flopped trips, you sucked out?
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Old 10-17-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: AA - another FlopOnly hand for Cpt. Handsome

Useful, thanks. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 10-17-2005, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: AA - another FlopOnly hand for Cpt. Handsome

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Useful, thanks. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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why is AA in the title?
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: AA - another FlopOnly hand for Cpt. Handsome

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Useful, thanks. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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why is AA in the title?

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That is an excellent question for which I do not have an answer.
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: QQ - another FlopOnly hand for Cpt. Handsome

Looks probably ok. I think he has TT/99/88/77 often enough.
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: QQ - another FlopOnly hand for Cpt. Handsome

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None of them fancy reads. Captain H would like to play some turns and rivers, but Smelly Villain says NO !... NO!


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO ($25)
Button ($27.35)
SB ($9.55)
Hero ($25.63)
UTG ($3.95)
UTG+1 ($35.96)
UTG+2 ($25.55)
MP1 ($25.35)
MP2 ($9.75)
MP3 ($5.76)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls $2.25.

Flop: ($5.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, Villain pushes $22.50, Hero calls $17.50.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($48.35) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $48.35

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Unless Villain made a mistake preflop and accidently clicked check, you were ahead preflop. Hand range includes all SCs, PPs, and Axs.

When he pushes the flop, I believe Villain will hold: a set 25%, 2 pair 25%, a straight 20%, and stuff you beat 30%. At the $25NL level, I just don't see amazing semibluffing or bluffing very often. Usually these players are true blue postflop.

You had to call $17.50 to win $32.85, so you need to win ~35% of the time.

This decision is very close EV-wise. Without reads on villain's postflop play, I'm folding.
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: QQ - another FlopOnly hand for Cpt. Handsome

Thanks for replies folks. How is your analysis affected on the following hand which has a very similar betting sequence ?

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Old 10-17-2005, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: QQ - another FlopOnly hand for Cpt. Handsome

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Thanks for replies folks. How is your analysis affected on the following hand which has a very similar betting sequence ?

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Dunno. What did "Smelly" hold in that hand?
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