Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event

[radek2166]

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This isn't even the right forum for this. Post this to the MTT forum so you can be flamed by the right people [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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LOL

They would lambaste you.

[radek2166]

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I think that people are answering this too quickly without giving it enough thought.

Suppose I am in the SB and Phil Ivey is the BB. Everyone folds to me.
Ok, what am I thinking ?
Well, firstly I’m sh!t scared of having to get involved in a hand with Phil Ivey. If we get to see a flop, then he’s definitely going to outplay me, and I’m going to lose chips, so the best EV decision for me is to fold.
Even if I have KK or QQ, I’m going to fold, cos if I raise and he calls me, I’m in deep trouble after that because he’s got position, and well, because he’s Phil Ivey.

Then I look at my hand – oh no, AA.
Disaster !
What do I do ?
I know, I’ll go all in. That way I cleverly negate his positional advantage. He can’t outplay me because I don’t have to think anymore.
So, that’s what I do. All in.

Ok, now look at it from Phil Ivey’s position. He has AA and the SB has gone all-in.
Because he’s Phil Ivey, he reads the SB like an open book, and immediately draws the conclusion that the SB has AA too.
So if Phil calls all-in, then 95.65% of the time, the pot is split.
But 2.17% of the time Phil wins, and 2.17% of the time Phil loses.
So Phil says to himself,
“why take the chance of doubling up when there’s an equal chance of me being knocked out ?
I’ll get lots of better opportunities later.
So, I fold.”

Result : Instant fold.

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RacingSilver
What rock did u crawl out from under?

[TheBlueMonster]

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So if Phil ask for a handjob do you give him one? How bout a [censored]?


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if? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[PassiveCaller]

HAAAAAAAAAahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah ahha

[Hornacek]

to RS and OP:

YSSCKY.

That, or enter next year's WSOP.

[KidPokerX]

lol, great response.

On a serious note, I think I'd fold.... noooooot
hahahahhaha

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If you're so afraid to play against Phil Ivey that you open-fold AA pre-flop, you probably shouldn't be playing in the WSOP in the first place.

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You should read all the post before you make incorrect comments.
What I said was that if I was in the SB, and Phil Ivey was in the BB, then I would fold everything except AA, in which case I would go all-in. Because I'm so sh!t scared of Phil Ivey.
And if that happens, and Phil Ivey has AA in the BB, then he should instantly fold because he would immediately deduce (as he is the greatest) that
(i) I'm sh!t scared of getting involved with him
(ii) because of (i), he knows that I would fold everything except AA
(iii) so because I actually decided to play at all, he KNOWS that I have AA. The fact that I went all in makes perfect sense to him because he KNOWS that I do not want to be be outplayed, so all-in is my only move.
So, for the above reasons, he knows that the best thing to do is fold, as the chances of doubling up are equal to the chances of getting knocked out. And he's too good a player to rely on 50/50 type situations.


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What are you...Phil Ivey's agent or something? One day your sitting there and are like "Hey Phil, I gotta idea that will push your stock to the top!. I will get on a poker message board and imply that if the occasion was perfect and it was the first hand of the World Series of Poker and the SB moved in on you and you were the BB that you might, think about, considering laying it down. Thats gold Phil, gold!"

[Hickboy]

lol

Instant call no matter who is playing. Pretty ridiculous decision if anyone would choose to fold AA preflop against one all in opponent.

Maybe it's a laydown if the holecards are JJ or QQ..

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And if you busted the first hand - first one out of the 2007 WSOP


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Oh come one there is no way he will be 21 by 2007...