First hand AA

[reecelights]

Party 20/2. No reads.

Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: RAMROD5647 ( $800 )
Seat 3: jaws9999 ( $800 )
Seat 4: ROWDYHOWDY ( $800 )
Seat 5: rickkirey ( $800 )
Seat 6: okcoakley ( $800 )
Seat 8: pdiddy35 ( $800 )
Seat 10: daddyg ( $800 )
Seat 2: reecelights ( $800 )
Seat 9: respighi ( $800 )
Seat 7: edawg4069 ( $800 )
Trny:6086452 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to reecelights [ Ac Ah ]
rickkirey folds.
okcoakley calls [15].
edawg4069 calls [15].
pdiddy35 folds.
respighi folds.
daddyg folds.
RAMROD5647 folds.
reecelights raises [75].
jaws9999 folds.
ROWDYHOWDY folds.
okcoakley calls [60].
edawg4069 calls [60].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 8s, Js ]
okcoakley checks.
edawg4069 bets [85].

How do you play this?

I'll post the results later.

[mikey checks]

id prob put in the same bet for the turn and river with a larger bet on the flop

[ilya]

I hate this flop, but I think I probably still have the best hand. I really don't want my opponents to see a cheap turn, so I would make a pot-sized raise to try to take the pot down right there. If I got flat-called, I would proceed with caution as I would suspect I was beaten already. If I got flat-called and a flush/straight card came on the turn, I would go into check/fold mode. If I got flat-called and a blank came on the turn...I'd feel like I had a hard decision. Depending on who was still in the pot and how they had been betting, I might bet/raise all-in, or I might fold. I would never just call/check in that situation.
If I got re-raised all-in on the flop, I would probably call as long as it was gonna be heads-up. I wouldn't be all that worried about a set or two pair as I think he would have made a strong bet to protect his hand. I don't think he would necessarily check to the preflop raiser as he would be worried that this coordinated flop would scare the raiser out of betting. So, I would suspect a flush/straight/flush+straight draw. I wouldn't be excited to call, but I'd probably do it.

[patrick dicaprio]

you have to raise here the question is how much. not all in for obvious reasons. if you make a pot sized raise this seems about right. lets look at a few things. First is that with this flop it is unlikely that okcoakley has anything other than a missed flop or a big draw. if he had two pair or a pair he would probably bet out and fold if raised. with a flush he will check call or check raise. i believe the same is true of the bettor. he likely has two pair or a pair or maybe a draw but not a made flush, although not out of the question.

so if he has one pair you are the best hand. if he has two pair and is raised it is really tough to see how he calls unless he has a spade. a huge raise doesnt make sens because they will fold any heands that you beat for a smaller raise so you are just making it more difficult to get away from the hand by making a bigger raise.

so i would raise the size of the pot or so and if called play with caution. if you are called and it is checked to you just check behind them.

Pat

[reecelights]

Thanks for your thoughts. I was thinking of betting pot but on first hand, thought anyone on a draw would call anyway.

I raised 2x what UTG2 (edawg) bet, to 170.

UTG (okcoakley) pushed. Edawg called. I fold.

okcoakley turns over 4s3s for a flush.
edawg shows AdTs for a gut shot straight flush draw.

[reecelights]

PS. Just moved up to 20/2s. Couldn't believe what I saw on those calls. I thought I was back at the 5/1 level.

Thanks to all on this forum, I've had two great weeks:
52%ITM, 104.5%ROI, last week (only three at 20/2)
52%ITM, 81.8%ROI, so far this week (the second half of the week all 20/2).