23K 1/2 hands- still a breakeven rock! Leaks?

[FlyWf]

I was a significant .25/.50 and .5/1 winner, but I've switched to 1/2(Stars and Crypto) primarily for bonus whoring. Unforunately, I'm just making the bonuses these days. And by these days, I mean almost the entire time I've spent at 1/2.

Here are my stats:
Hands: 23595
VP$P: 12.39
PFR: 6.55
BB/100: -(0.41)
I know, too tight, too passive. Over the past month or so I've attempted to solve this leak by pushing those to 14/7.5, with -(4.85) BB/100 results. 4K hands, but ugh. Bad run, maybe, but is 14/7.5 still weak passive? Probably. My problem with further LAGing is I fondly remember my 11/6 days as days of delicious profit. Small profit, but no 40 BB downswings.

I know I started being such a rock because I was a bit scared money stepping up to $1/$2 at the Cryptos(lowest level offered at the time), and I rationalized it to myself that I was willing to give up BB/100 in exchange for decreased variance when the bonuses were so good(8 BB/100 hands). In retrospect, that only makes sense for the first few months, once my bankroll got healthy there's no reason to give up money if variance can't run me broke.

Aggression:
Preflop 0.82
Flop: 3.37
Turn: 3.53
River: 2.5

Here I'm not sure what the "right" numbers are.
One theory, which I hope isn't true: My days of 11 VP$P taught me horrible lessons about postflop play, and I'm pushing too hard with less premium hands. Do these numbers support that? Basically, I theorize that I need to become more loose aggressive preflop but slow down a bit postflop. I rarely check/call people down, prefering to stupidly 3-bet sets and fold to people I have outkicked.

[bottomset]

you'd have to hold a gun to my head to get me to play 12.4/6.5

seriously go back to .5/1 and learn how to play the 8% of hands you are folding

as for postflop I suspect you fold too much, and your af are abnormally high as a result

[Online247]

Move back down to .50/1 or even .25/.50. You have to work yourself to playing and raising more hands.

SOrry if this isn't what you wanted to hear, but I think it's in your best interest to move down and practice playing a more Tight/Aggresive style.

[dozer]

buy Small Stakes Hold'em by Ed miller and read it a bunch of times, because you already know you are a ROCK, so this is the only thing I can think of that will fix that.

If you have already read this book, then I am confused to as why you play this way.

[MrWookie47]

3betting sets is a mistake virtually never.

Folding to much is really bad. You look exactly like the kind of player I'd want sitting directly behind me. If you were playing 6max, I would actively hunt you down and sit in front of you at every opportunity I got.

Seriously, dude. As I've heard them say around these parts, you're tighter than a nun's nasty. Loosen up. Add some hands. Limp 22 UTG. Hell, you can even play fit-or-fold poker with that. It's easy. After that, add blind steals from the button with A2o. When you're done that, value raise 55 on the button when facing 7 limpers preflop.

Next, look at the threads here. Read all of them. Without looking at the other responses, identify the threads in which you'd fold somewhere, and then respond and say you'd fold. You will very quickly have people telling you where you shouldn't fold. When you're at the table, and a similar situation comes up, don't fold then.

Your aggression stats are way too high because you fold instead of calling way, way too much. Then, when you're in a hand, you are sitting on the nuts and sticking it to the other dudes as best you can. Unfortunately, you can't stick it to them all that well because they know you have the nuts when you raise, and you're passing up on so many marginal situations that it can't compoensate for the blinds.

[FlyWf]

I meant 3-betting up against a set(with TPTK). Whining about bad luck is the eternal crutch of the suboptimal player.

About the postflop aggression stats, what should my numbers look like? Should the river be that much lower?

Finally, the new 14/7.5 version of me is losing while the 11/6 version of me won. Is that just a bad run or is there a common leak that increasing VP$P and PFR can cause in a rock? I'd love to be unlucky while improving, but hoping isn't making me any money.

The 14/7.5 me(and there really was an ephiphany about grinding out bonus vs. playing poker around a month ago) has the following aggression factors:
3.03/3.57/1.82. Same general pattern if a bit lower overall.

[crownjules]

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About the postflop aggression stats, what should my numbers look like? Should the river be that much lower?

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A "good" AF is highest on the flop and lowest on the river. That being said, most will say that an AF of 3+ on any street is probably a bit too high (especially if you have AF of 3+ on two or more streets).

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Finally, the new 14/7.5 version of me is losing while the 11/6 version of me won. Is that just a bad run or is there a common leak that increasing VP$P and PFR can cause in a rock? I'd love to be unlucky while improving, but hoping isn't making me any money.

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It could be a bad run, or it could be that in an attempt to loosen up you're picking some bad hands at bad times to push. Pick some hands from that period and post them for us to see. As someone else suggested, read over hands and make posts saying you would have folded a particular situation. If you were wrong, it will be explained to you.

[MrWookie47]

A number of other posters and I play 22/12 poker or so. I think grjr has a VPIP of something like 97.24%, but he's the exception. You should be able to play 17/9 poker while adhering to SSH's loose preflop chart as long as you occasionally try to steal the blinds, and you should look to add hands as your comfort level rises and you get a good lock on the table.

I suspect, though, that the biggest reason for your losing is poor postflop play, i.e., folding too much. If you add more hands (11-14%), but fold postflop more often to compensate, you're just going to be tossing away the money that you tossed in the pot to play those hands.

[Innocentius]

I mostly agree with what other posters have already said. This is really a post-flop problem. I wouldn't recommend immediately trying to get your preflop stats up to something like 18/9. Rather, focus set the aim around 14/7, and concentrate on playing the hands well postflop. And yes, your aggression factor seems high, probably due to too much folding. Maybe you are already doing this, but otherwise, try to think about implied odds as well as immediate when you decide whether to call or fold with a draw. Also, if you are likely drawing, but there is a small chance that your hand might actually be best, you can accept worse pot odds.

[jrz1972]

14/7 is still way too tight.

For now, I would recommend to just follow the SSHE "tight" chart religiously. That will at least get you to 17/7ish, which is fine until you get your postflop play down. Then you can start adding a few more hands and raising a bit more.

The reason I recommend sticking to a preflop chart is because you obviously have some very serious problems in your game. If you follow a good chart, at least you'll fix your preflop leaks while you concentrate on closing your postflop leaks.