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Old 08-14-2004, 11:10 AM
Virox Virox is offline
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Default Middle pair and flushdraw on the flop - all In?

$10 Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (6 handed)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="C00000">UTG (t1495.00)</font>
MP (t1320.00)
CO (t1535.00)
Button (t1845.00)
SB (t2450.00)
<font color="C00000">Hero (t1355.00)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t30.
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises to t120</font>, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB (poster) folds, Hero calls t60.

Flop: (t270) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets t100</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t350</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises to t1375</font>, Hero calls t885.

Turn: (t2880) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>

River: (t2880) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2880
<font color="green">Main Pot: t2880 (t2880), between UTG and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by UTG (t2880).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows 5d Jd (one pair, jacks).
UTG shows Qh Kh (flush, king high).
Outcome: UTG wins t2880. </font>


I don't like how I played this hand. I think the pot-size raise on the flop was really bad. Both All-in, call and even fold (I'm a winning player and don't want coin flips) would have been better. Any thoughts?
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Old 08-14-2004, 11:13 AM
Texas Pete Texas Pete is offline
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Default Re: Middle pair and flushdraw on the flop - all In?

I would have folded that pre-flop. If you want to make him think twice about stealing in later rounds, raise him preflop.
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Old 08-14-2004, 11:22 AM
Phill S Phill S is offline
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Default Re: Middle pair and flushdraw on the flop - all In?

[ QUOTE ]
$10 Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t30.
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises to t120</font>, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB (poster) folds, Hero calls t60.


[/ QUOTE ]

the blinds dont make sense here. you posted the BB of 60 presumably, not 30 as it says up top.

that aside, you should of just let go of the blind imo.

why defend with a poor hand, against someone raising from up front, indicating a fair to big hand.

youve probably got the correct pot odds, but you could make something that looks good and is actually being murdered.

just fold and steal a couple of hands later, no harm no foul.

Phill
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Old 08-14-2004, 11:38 AM
Virox Virox is offline
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Default Re: Middle pair and flushdraw on the flop - all In?

Yes BB is 60, must be some bug in the converter...

I agree with you that it's a loose call. But what I really wonder about is my flop play...
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Old 08-14-2004, 11:51 AM
BrettK BrettK is offline
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Default Re: Middle pair and flushdraw on the flop - all In?

On the flop, betting the pot is probably better than check-raising, which your hand is not strong enough for. If he raises, fold. If he calls, I wouldn't bet again without the flush.

Brett
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