10 20 Party Value Bet River?

[Jason Strasser]

Simple Question

***** Hand History for Game 2537877386 *****
$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, August 15, 01:35:17 EDT 2005
Table Table 51985 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: HERO ( $2767 )
Seat 4: MonsterAGR ( $2886 )
Seat 8: svinto9 ( $10892.25 )
Seat 10: mbiker ( $1529 )
MonsterAGR posts small blind [$10].
svinto9 posts big blind [$20].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 2s As ]
>You have options at Table 54947 (No DP) Table!.
mbiker raises [$65].
HERO calls [$65].
MonsterAGR folds.
svinto9 calls [$45].
>You have options at Table 51981 Table!.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, 3s, 2d ]
svinto9 checks.
mbiker bets [$150].
HERO calls [$150].
svinto9 calls [$150].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ac ]
svinto9 checks.
mbiker bets [$500].
HERO calls [$500].
>You have options at Table 51981 Table!.
svinto9 folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
mbiker checks.


Hows my play on the other streets also?
-Jason

[gus thegreatdane]

Yes. If he AK-AJ he would probably bet this river. I bet he has hand like 1010-JJ and is looking for a cheap showdown.

[Neurotoxin]

I think a good player with AK checks that river and hopes to catch a bluff.

[pofi]

As for me, clear fold preflop.

[RikaKazak]

Fold pf, fold flop, I raise turn, I check behind river

[Yeti]

The percentage of players who are bad enough to call you here with a worse hand is very low.

Easy check.

[fsuplayer]

folding here pf is weak, I call the flop too, and hate the overcall.

i play this the exact same, and after thinking for a while, i think he has air, or 1010-KK. his turn bet, coupled with the river check is fishy, and doesnt really seem like AK/AQ.

if he had a good ace, why is he checking and hoping to induce a check with a $1600+pot with only 800 left? thats a no brainer push there with AK/AQ.

so bet whatever you think he'll call with a good PP.

[pofi]

[ QUOTE ]
folding here pf is weak, I call the flop too, and hate the overcall.

i play this the exact same, and after thinking for a while, i think he has air, or 1010-KK. his turn bet, coupled with the river check is fishy, and doesnt really seem like AK/AQ.

if he had a good ace, why is he checking and hoping to induce a check with a $1600+pot with only 800 left? thats a no brainer push there with AK/AQ.

so bet whatever you think he'll call with a good PP.

[/ QUOTE ]
What are you talking about?Why fold pf here is weak?Can you argument it?It's clear fold pf

[pofi]

As for other streets- raise flop to something like 400 and raise turn, check on the river. But I still think that that's clear fold pf

[9cao]

I fold preflop but only because raiser only has 80 BB's and I wouldn't be sure that I was going 3-way.

I would raise the turn because you are pretty vulnerable and not a great spot to get tricky. Also, I think calling will slow Villain down if he has TT-KK anyways so you might as well try to extract some value from AK/AQ.

I would check the river simply because the any draws (although unlikely) missed and it would be a spot for AK/AQ to induce a bluff. I don't see many hands you beat calling the river.