Token hand post (AKs)

[Nate tha' Great]

Yeah, yeah, long time no write...

Went down to Resorts (f/k/a Harrah's) East Chicago last night with ChicagoTroy and played for a few hours. These were the first hands of poker I've played in about six weeks. Felt like my instincts were pretty sharp for the most part but here's one that confused me.

20/40. Sat down at the table maybe 1/2 hour ago and have won a couple of pots without a showdown. By default a young quiet, otherwise-unknown white guy in this game is apt to be perceived as somewhat tight aggressive.

I have AK diamonds UTG and raise. The only caller is the SB. Based on what I can tell, SB fits a pretty typical profile in this game. Somewhat chubby white dude in his late 20s, can get away with some loose play preflop because he knows the players all right and has some modicum of postflop skills. Probably can make a few moves postflop against "tight" players but wouldn't be considered especially aggressive by say 30/60 Party standards. Possibly beats this soft game by a small margin but would likely be a loser at comparable limits online.

Flop is 853 or something with two spades, he checks, I bet, he calls.

Turn is the A of spades, completing the flush draw, he bets into me. Is this still called a "donkbet" or has a new term of art emerged?

I hope you'll recognize that I can't fold here straight away.

Nevertheless, I've got various options...

1) Just call down.
2a) Raise turn and call down a 3-bet.
2b) Raise turn and fold to a 3-bet.
3) Call turn, raise non-spade river, fold to 3-bet.

...which do we prefer?

p.s. No I'm not dead or broke or institutionalized or anything like that. Just very busy with some cool stuff at Baseball Prospectus. Still have a backlog of work and I probably won't play a substantial amount of online poker until the end of the month. Not that I really miss it. I do miss you guys, though.

[JimmyV]

Option 3 is very appealing.

[MrTeddyKGB]

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Option 3 is very appealing.

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[DcifrThs]

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Option 3 is very appealing.

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i disagree w/ you option 3ers. nate 100% needs to see a showdown here. if you raise river, you better be calling a 3bet despite the fact you're losing every time.

therefore. call down.

-Barron

[Chris Daddy Cool]

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if you raise river, you better be calling a 3bet despite the fact you're losing every time.


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no amount of image is worth this extra bet if you know you're losing every time, imo.

[psyduck]

2a

[amerksmann22]

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2a

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This is by far the worst option

[geormiet]

In a live game i think 2b) is good but I would never advocate it online against most opponents. For online i like basically all of the other options equally...

In live play you're just not going to get 3 bet unless you're drawing dead. The only problem is it looks bad to do a lot of raise folding, so I wouldn't do it if I've already shown I'm capable of the play.

[ShawnHoo]

I like 3, but what's the line if the river's a spade?

[Chris Daddy Cool]

Hi Nate tha' Great,

3.

Love,
Chris

I will edit to add however that 1 is better than 2.