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Old 12-15-2005, 04:23 PM
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Looks really easy all the way through. Nice hand.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:45 PM
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i like it. turn check is definitely standard and i think the river bet has value.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:21 PM
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I'm pretty sure if you bet and get raised on the turn, you can easily fold. There's like a 1% chance he's bluffing on that board. So I think you should bet the turn, and possibly even the river.


Edit: I don't bet these turns every time either, but I do like to mix it up at a good frequency.
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:10 PM
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I'm pretty sure if you bet and get raised on the turn, you can easily fold. There's like a 1% chance he's bluffing on that board. So I think you should bet the turn, and possibly even the river.


Edit: I don't bet these turns every time either, but I do like to mix it up at a good frequency.

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ok that makes sense to me now. i will bet/fold here often but since this pot is quite large at this point i really dont want to blown off a hand or have to make a tough decision.
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:30 PM
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There's like a 1% chance he's bluffing on that board. So I think you should bet the turn, and possibly even the river.

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I'd say with one face card and a bunch of crap, this is a pretty excellent board to bluff at. Hero could be capping lightly pissed off at all the 3-bets with a hand like QJ and would certainly be in a tough spot with a hand like 77 or AJ facing a turn raise.
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:45 PM
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There's like a 1% chance he's bluffing on that board. So I think you should bet the turn, and possibly even the river.

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I'd say with one face card and a bunch of crap, this is a pretty excellent board to bluff at. Hero could be capping lightly pissed off at all the 3-bets with a hand like QJ and would certainly be in a tough spot with a hand like 77 or AJ facing a turn raise.

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Again, it totally depends on the opponent, but I doubt after you cap preflop that an opponent has the balls to raise a Kxx board. ESPECIALLY waiting for the turn to bluff would be insane, because pulling off the bluff costs 2.5x as much, and basically needs to work twice as often.
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:57 PM
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i disagree with you here. when this type of overaggro player starts running you over they often times think they can run you over in every pot. i think the times you get bluffraised on the turn are much higher than 1% but not over 10%. the king is a good card to bluffraise victor on. not because victor is going to fold a pair but because an idiot who thinks he can easily run an opponent over might think victor will fold a pocket pair with the king on board. not to mention he might think victor could have a hand like AQ and lay that down as well. from the impression i get of villain and the past history victor has with him he seems to be the type of player to come up with reasons for why he should attempt to bluff the opponent out of the pot, not the type to make calculated bluffs.
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:45 PM
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I think your turn play should depend highly on how lightly you think he'd be peeling this flop. If he'd call with hands like QJ, then you're better off firing again at the turn. If you think he'd fold all hands with two undercards to the ten and most weak aces, I'd check-call the turn, check-fold the river.

Since he checked behind on the turn, I think you have a thin value bet on the river. I would think if his hand had no chance to win, he'd bet the turn or else his flop call makes no sense, so its likely he's got something he'd like to showdown. Whether to call a raise or not seems pretty close. There just doesn't seem to be a lot of hands you'd play in a similar fashion, so I am afraid of a bluff raise. I would call unless you screwplay the turn a decent amount with made hands.
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:47 PM
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he is calling the flop with any 2 cards on principle.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:20 PM
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haha...oh i like value bet
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