straight vs maniac

sb 64-42-1.83, sb 54-8-0.5, 60ish hands on both. turn line? river line?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

River: (15 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

[imported_leader]

Perfect, IMO

[SteveGriff]

I like

[Monty Cantsin]

If this guys a maniac you gotta raise the river.

/mc

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If this guys a maniac you gotta raise the river.

/mc

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and do what if he 3bets?

[Monty Cantsin]

Call.

/mc

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Call.

/mc

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what hands does he 3 bet that we beat? hes wild postflop, but not so wild that he cant see the three clubs...

[Monty Cantsin]

You say he's a maniac, I assume that's based on watching him overplay/bluff some recent hands, not just on stats. So in this hand I'm putting him on a range that includes a big chunk of overplay/bluffs.

His river bet, after just calling the turn, is pretty suspicious (even from a reasonable player this could be something like the stupid end of the straight) and I continue to put him on an overplay/bluff enough of the time to warrant another raise.

At this point, if he 3-bets me, folding would be a huge mistake because of the size of the pot and the nature of the opponent. Even if his overplay/bluff % shrinks down to a fraction of its former size you have to call. Depending on how maniacal he is you sometimes should cap, it's hard to tell because you don't really say what kind of maniac he is.

With a strong hand against a maniac you have to maximize your profit, not save bets.

If he's not really a maniac, just overly aggro, and you haven't seen him get crazy post-flop, then the river call is fine.

/mc