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Old 09-26-2004, 02:03 PM
Beavis68 Beavis68 is offline
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Default Site Review - Doylesroom

This is not SPAM! And I am not affiliated with the site.

Site:
Doylesroom/Victor Chandler (not positive this is a VC skin but it sure looks like it to me).

Traffic:
2200-3000 players at most times.

Ring games:

Texas Hold'em:

Limit: 9-seat games from .02/.04 to 10/20 there should always be a game going in to suit your bank-roll.

Big-bet: 9-seat NL and PL from .05/.10 to 2/4 NL games are more popular than PL.

Omaha:

High-only: 9-seat PL games from .05/.10 to .50/1.00 usually only low limit games running; limit from .10/.20 to 10/20 but it is rare that a limit game is going.

8/b: also 9-seat games same limits are High-only, generally only low-limit PL games going.

Sit-n-Gos:

Texas Hold'em: 9-seat from 0.04 to 100+9 SnG are always running at most limits. SnG are NL only except for some PL heads-up games. Heads-up games start at 0.20 to 50. Blinds are 8min for the standard games, there are also speed and turbo tournaments that have blinds are fast as 3min. I have not figured out the difference between SPEED and TURBO yet. Starting stack is 2000 and starting blinds are 20/40. Play is a little slower than UB and Party, so blinds do escalate briskly.

Omaha and Omaha 8/b: 9-seat PL from .10 to 15+1.50 (8/b also has limit games from .10c to 10+1) generally only the lowest limit games fill-up, and it will take a while to get nine people together (like to sit at a table while I am playing a NL SnG).

MTTs: NL and Limit tourney's from 25c to $198 (198 games are generally super satelittes) 100 being the highes cash game. They also have speed and ruby tournaments. Stanadard tourneys have 8min levels, but the higher buy-in games have 12min levels. This weekend there was a 10k guaranteed 100 buy-in event that only attracted 58 players! Nice EV there! Typical fields are under 100 - max is 630.


The site also has Omaha tourneys (both types) but they rarely run. Today there is a $600 guaranteed re-buy with a $9 PLO that so far only has 5 people enter, I will have to keep my eye on that one!

Free-rolls and bonuses:

Doylesroom give Action Points for time at that tables. One great thing these point can be used for is free rolls that pay cash. For a mere 100 APs ( have almost 200 after just a few weeks or playing cheap SnGs) a player can enter a free roll with a $50 prize pool. For those high rollers that play often, 12,000 point will get a player into a $2,500 prize pool MTT. A recent 2,000 AP free-roll attracted 200 or so players and paid $135 for first place.

Players:

There are a lot of very aggressive players on this site. And since it is a skin for VC, a lot of European players that like to gamble. Good example, in a NL cash game on a board on 8h 7h 7s, I had a guy call my all in with 10d 9s. There is money to be made on the site.

Overall, the interface is decent, with "flags" for the icon for each player. One negative, you can only have 2 tables open at once.

If you decide to try the site, be sure to check the home page for your first deposit bonus (I can't believe I forgot to do this). The site accepts Neteller and Visa?MC through that is charged to a 3rd party.

I really like this site for "Party" nights, because I can play some cheap sit-n-gos and drink and not have to think too much about my game, while chatting with friends.

PS

Another negative of the site is the hand history. No round by round history is available, and so the histories are useless in checking your play and are not compatible with PT.
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Old 09-26-2004, 04:27 PM
daveymck daveymck is offline
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Default Re: Site Review - Doylesroom

Also the note taking feature has been added but its not very good when you click on notes it seems to bring up the note for all the players you have notes on rather than a litte box on the player so if have notes on multiple players its a nightmare.

A lot of the regular players on VC are pretty unhappy with the site at the moment and a number have closed their accounts, there have been a number of issues with their servers crashing.

Also most of their freeze out tournies now are 8 minute levels and in the rebuys the rebuy period seems to be getting extended more and more into more levels. Its probably a good site for rebuy specialists.

The 1/2 games there are pretty decent for a player who knows what they are doing and from what I have seen the 10/20 game is pretty loose with a few idiots playing there.
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Old 09-26-2004, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: Site Review - Doylesroom

I just finished the PLO tourney - out of the money.

I never rebought, I lost a key hand early, but made a decent come-back.

Here is a hand that is, I think, a good example of how bad the PLO players are.

Flop is J T 5, rainbow, I check raise all-in - I think the raise was 1400.

I get called by KQJx and AK53. An open ender and a belly buster. Unfortunately the belly buster hit, and I lost about half the pot, hardly any one took the rebuy.

I wish I would have re-bought early and add-on, I think this would have helped a lot after the blinds increase.

I also forgot that they do have 6-seat tourneys.
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Old 09-27-2004, 12:01 AM
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Default How are the cashouts?

[ QUOTE ]
This is not SPAM! And I am not affiliated with the site.

Site:
Doylesroom/Victor Chandler (not positive this is a VC skin but it sure looks like it to me).

Traffic:
2200-3000 players at most times.

Ring games:

Texas Hold'em:

Limit: 9-seat games from .02/.04 to 10/20 there should always be a game going in to suit your bank-roll.

Big-bet: 9-seat NL and PL from .05/.10 to 2/4 NL games are more popular than PL.

Omaha:

High-only: 9-seat PL games from .05/.10 to .50/1.00 usually only low limit games running; limit from .10/.20 to 10/20 but it is rare that a limit game is going.

8/b: also 9-seat games same limits are High-only, generally only low-limit PL games going.

Sit-n-Gos:

Texas Hold'em: 9-seat from 0.04 to 100+9 SnG are always running at most limits. SnG are NL only except for some PL heads-up games. Heads-up games start at 0.20 to 50. Blinds are 8min for the standard games, there are also speed and turbo tournaments that have blinds are fast as 3min. I have not figured out the difference between SPEED and TURBO yet. Starting stack is 2000 and starting blinds are 20/40. Play is a little slower than UB and Party, so blinds do escalate briskly.

Omaha and Omaha 8/b: 9-seat PL from .10 to 15+1.50 (8/b also has limit games from .10c to 10+1) generally only the lowest limit games fill-up, and it will take a while to get nine people together (like to sit at a table while I am playing a NL SnG).

MTTs: NL and Limit tourney's from 25c to $198 (198 games are generally super satelittes) 100 being the highes cash game. They also have speed and ruby tournaments. Stanadard tourneys have 8min levels, but the higher buy-in games have 12min levels. This weekend there was a 10k guaranteed 100 buy-in event that only attracted 58 players! Nice EV there! Typical fields are under 100 - max is 630.


The site also has Omaha tourneys (both types) but they rarely run. Today there is a $600 guaranteed re-buy with a $9 PLO that so far only has 5 people enter, I will have to keep my eye on that one!

Free-rolls and bonuses:

Doylesroom give Action Points for time at that tables. One great thing these point can be used for is free rolls that pay cash. For a mere 100 APs ( have almost 200 after just a few weeks or playing cheap SnGs) a player can enter a free roll with a $50 prize pool. For those high rollers that play often, 12,000 point will get a player into a $2,500 prize pool MTT. A recent 2,000 AP free-roll attracted 200 or so players and paid $135 for first place.

Players:

There are a lot of very aggressive players on this site. And since it is a skin for VC, a lot of European players that like to gamble. Good example, in a NL cash game on a board on 8h 7h 7s, I had a guy call my all in with 10d 9s. There is money to be made on the site.

Overall, the interface is decent, with "flags" for the icon for each player. One negative, you can only have 2 tables open at once.

If you decide to try the site, be sure to check the home page for your first deposit bonus (I can't believe I forgot to do this). The site accepts Neteller and Visa?MC through that is charged to a 3rd party.

I really like this site for "Party" nights, because I can play some cheap sit-n-gos and drink and not have to think too much about my game, while chatting with friends.

PS

Another negative of the site is the hand history. No round by round history is available, and so the histories are useless in checking your play and are not compatible with PT.

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I have heard that these VC skins, (especially Golden Palace) are very, very slow and bad about cashouts. Is this one of those absurd sites that make you send them your Driver's License, Utility Bill, Stool Sample and all that other nonsense?
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Old 09-27-2004, 12:13 AM
Beavis68 Beavis68 is offline
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Default Re: How are the cashouts?

I dont know about the cash outs yet, but I just used my credit card.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: How are the cashouts?

im pretty sure victor chandler bought golden palace, i could be wrong but thats what i remember hearing. I have been playing at vc since january and i have never had problems cashing out ,was 4 days with wire transfers and they paid the fees, they only recently started accepting neteller and its 1 business day to get cash out into neteller.
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Old 09-27-2004, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: How are the cashouts?

I have found VC cash outs to be quick back to my debit card.

They had another rebuy tournament cancelled again last night the $50,000 guarentted as the cashier server went down in the middle of the rebuy period.

Its a decent site but they are having a lot og problems at the moment.
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Old 09-27-2004, 06:56 AM
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Default Re: Site Review - Doylesroom

What do you mean, "idiots"? I hope you don't refer to your customers.
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Old 09-27-2004, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: Site Review - Doylesroom

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What do you mean, "idiots"? I hope you don't refer to your customers.

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I dont understand the question I am not the owner of VC?

However as I work in IT support I do find and call most of my customers idiots, although generally after I have put the phone down.
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Old 09-27-2004, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: Site Review - Doylesroom

I think he means that these "idiots" provide you with your winnings and hence are your customers.

I've found VC to be an "OK" site. Quick cashouts, can use debit card, softish games. The software is fast but the notes and hand histories can be a problem.

Oh, they also charge juice (5%) on each rebuy as well as the initial buy-in.
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