$11: am i sloppy?

liucipher · #1 12-12-2005, 10:51 PM

I just started 4-tabling. No reads.

Am I:
a.) a little girl for not wanting to play AK out of position
b.) brilliant for somehow dodging the slowplayed AA
c.) your standard 2+2er looking for better edges later on

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

MP2 (t730)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t730)
Button (t790)
SB (t785)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t730)
UTG+1 (t715)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t1120)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t30, 3 folds, MP3 raises to t100, 3 folds, Hero folds

ilya · #2 12-12-2005, 10:55 PM

I would call.

Also, can we go easier on using women as a metaphor for weakness/cowardice. It's getting a bit out of control here in STT.

handsome · #3 12-12-2005, 11:01 PM

Calling is a leak.

ilya · #4 12-12-2005, 11:53 PM

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Calling is a leak.

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You think so? I do think it's close but

1, most likely preflop action is that the original raiser calls, so you end up with 2:1 to flop a pair. which seems good enough, cos

2, you're basically a lock at the $11s to stack one or both opponents if they flop a worse Ace or King with you.

Mvcode3 · #5 12-12-2005, 11:54 PM

I think that calling is a better play then pushing.

Hendricks433 · #6 12-13-2005, 01:44 AM

uhhh [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I think calling is bad IMO. Calling off 1/8th if your stack early with no Pair. Eh IDK. 2+2ers edge is later in the game where you need chips. I save my chips for later or push. In the $11's I say its 50/50 cause theyll call with crap.

liucipher · #7 12-12-2005, 11:01 PM

Sorry for the anti-women remarks. Threads titled like that get more responses [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I considered calling, but didn't like 1.) being out of position 2.) t100 3.) UTG+1 left to act. Is that horrendous or neutral?

Say I folded. If UTG+1 pushes and MP3 calls, it is high time to get the fizz00k out of there right?

BAK · #8 12-13-2005, 12:19 PM

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Also, can we go easier on using women as a metaphor for weakness/cowardice. It's getting a bit out of control here in STT.

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Thank you Ilya, I appreciate the sentiment here. That was my first reaction as well.

On the otherhand, it is seriously +EV for us that some of you guys think this way. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

wuwei · #9 12-12-2005, 10:58 PM

Folding is fine for 1/8th of your stack oop. I fold or shove depending on the reraiser.

Mvcode3 · #10 12-12-2005, 11:02 PM

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Folding is fine for 1/8th of your stack oop. I fold or shove depending on the reraiser.

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If you shove what are you going to get called by? AA-KK-QQ
mabye JJ. Does AQ or worse call here? If your are called at best you are on the wrong side of a coin flip.