5/10 Representing Quads

[kagame]

i think you just illustrated your edge

you PUT PEOPLE ON HANDS!

hopefully your opponents are only mildly aware of this process

[HoldEmKillah]

Are you being a dick again?

[kagame]

actually in a convoluted manner i just complimented you ;-)

btw i fold anything less than a 7 there all day long, without a monster read, nice play vs a thinking opponent

thing is, the play makes a 7 fold if you limped in utg or raised preflop, yeah?

[flawless_victory]

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If you really had quads, you woulda bet less.

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Obviously not, if everyone is gonna call with just a 2.

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exactly.

[flawless_victory]

well, that turn play is truly horrible, but i think the river is ok...
his way way most likely hand is 22 (trust me, i didnt need the results), so you have to bet something. plus you get to show this Q8o, and everyone will think you are a lunatic.

[kagame]

how do you feel about how he played his hand? should he move in on the turn to be called by a 7? i personally do, but often take the initiative away from a bluffer im sure *ehhm*

btw how do you play a non board triping river? did you give up? how about if you pair?

[VanVeen]

What hand range do you assign villain on the turn after his raise? Any reasonable assumptions about a 'solid regular' at 5/10nl would make a turn 3bet to $300 have an expectation of >-$200 plus whatever you're willing to bet on a river blank. Turn play sucks.

River play isn't that great, either. What hand range do you assign villain after he calls the turn 3bet, and are there enough hands in that range that villain will fold to justify a river shove? (No)

In isolation this hand is a total blunder. As an image play it is too -EV to be justified. Don't like. At all.

[Mens Rea]

Kagame - This is a good question.

I think I mail it in if the clubs get there. I'm too tired to get deeper than this right now though.

[Staycool]

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Seems like your turn play is -EV then, as apart from a 6 or maybe a 7, nothing else is going to allow to you win the hand.

Hi Killah...

I think the turn play is the key in this hand. When he is raising You, he says "Im not afraid of You having a 6". That means either a) He has a 6, with a good kicker. Most likely K-6 or A-6. Likely, given his preflop limp. b) He has 7-6 (likely) or 2-6 (probably dumped pf). c) He has 77 or 22. Can be, but the combinations are fewer. d) He has played AA or KK in a peculiar way (he should then fold for your re-raise). I think, with hands like 8-8 to J-J, he just calls on the turn.

The river does the combinations of sixes less likely. After this i would say K-6, A-6, 7-6, 7-7 and 2-2 have 18 pts each, and other hands 10 pts (like AA or trash). I dont think he is folding any other hand than 2-2 here, so you will be called 72 pts of the time - plus maybe 5 pts of the remaining 10. Since you are risking less than a 2-oddser, you need to be called less than 50 pts of the time.

The push is therefore wrong, given my prespumptions.