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10-23-2005, 04:34 AM
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Re: This play needs a name...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wow you really are a rock. [/ QUOTE ] but i already knew that, so really no need for the wow part. [/ QUOTE ] That is right biatch. Nobody can nit up a game like me. I think you guys are getting carried away with this I'll isolate with 9Ts crap. I will be anxiously awaiting your PT screenshot that shows how profitable 9Ts or T8s is in this spot. I may very well be wrong and will gladly change my play when you convince with some data rather than the do this because i think it is good argument. [/ QUOTE ] I'd like to see some evidence as well. I'll play this if I'm confident there won't be a raise behind me, but it seems to me this hand becomes a loser when there's a late position raise. 
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#42
10-23-2005, 04:42 AM
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Re: This play needs a name...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wow you really are a rock. [/ QUOTE ] but i already knew that, so really no need for the wow part. [/ QUOTE ] That is right biatch. Nobody can nit up a game like me. I think you guys are getting carried away with this I'll isolate with 9Ts crap. I will be anxiously awaiting your PT screenshot that shows how profitable 9Ts or T8s is in this spot. I may very well be wrong and will gladly change my play when you convince with some data rather than the do this because i think it is good argument. [/ QUOTE ] I'd like to see some evidence as well. I'll play this if I'm confident there won't be a raise behind me, but it seems to me this hand becomes a loser when there's a late position raise. [/ QUOTE ] Especially when some TAG on the button sees a poster and knows that anyone with a reasonably strong hand would raise since the poster has a random hand. The bases get loaded up and pow!
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#43
10-23-2005, 04:46 AM
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Re: This play needs a name...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wow you really are a rock. [/ QUOTE ] but i already knew that, so really no need for the wow part. [/ QUOTE ] That is right biatch. Nobody can nit up a game like me. I think you guys are getting carried away with this I'll isolate with 9Ts crap. I will be anxiously awaiting your PT screenshot that shows how profitable 9Ts or T8s is in this spot. I may very well be wrong and will gladly change my play when you convince with some data rather than the do this because i think it is good argument. [/ QUOTE ] I'd like to see some evidence as well. I'll play this if I'm confident there won't be a raise behind me, but it seems to me this hand becomes a loser when there's a late position raise. [/ QUOTE ] Especially when some TAG on the button sees a poster and knows that anyone with a reasonably strong hand would raise since the poster has a random hand. The bases get loaded up and pow! [/ QUOTE ] the button isnt raising after 2 limps and a poster without a legit hand. remove sand from vag plz.
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#44
10-23-2005, 04:54 AM
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Re: This play needs a name...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wow you really are a rock. [/ QUOTE ] but i already knew that, so really no need for the wow part. [/ QUOTE ] That is right biatch. Nobody can nit up a game like me. I think you guys are getting carried away with this I'll isolate with 9Ts crap. I will be anxiously awaiting your PT screenshot that shows how profitable 9Ts or T8s is in this spot. I may very well be wrong and will gladly change my play when you convince with some data rather than the do this because i think it is good argument. [/ QUOTE ] I'd like to see some evidence as well. I'll play this if I'm confident there won't be a raise behind me, but it seems to me this hand becomes a loser when there's a late position raise. [/ QUOTE ] Especially when some TAG on the button sees a poster and knows that anyone with a reasonably strong hand would raise since the poster has a random hand. The bases get loaded up and pow! [/ QUOTE ] the button isnt raising after 2 limps and a poster without a legit hand. remove sand from vag plz. [/ QUOTE ] Still waiting for PT data...
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#45
10-23-2005, 04:57 AM
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Re: This play needs a name...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wow you really are a rock. [/ QUOTE ] but i already knew that, so really no need for the wow part. [/ QUOTE ] That is right biatch. Nobody can nit up a game like me. I think you guys are getting carried away with this I'll isolate with 9Ts crap. I will be anxiously awaiting your PT screenshot that shows how profitable 9Ts or T8s is in this spot. I may very well be wrong and will gladly change my play when you convince with some data rather than the do this because i think it is good argument. [/ QUOTE ] I'd like to see some evidence as well. I'll play this if I'm confident there won't be a raise behind me, but it seems to me this hand becomes a loser when there's a late position raise. [/ QUOTE ] Especially when some TAG on the button sees a poster and knows that anyone with a reasonably strong hand would raise since the poster has a random hand. The bases get loaded up and pow! [/ QUOTE ] the button isnt raising after 2 limps and a poster without a legit hand. remove sand from vag plz. [/ QUOTE ] Still waiting for PT data... [/ QUOTE ] PT data on how often the button raises after 2 limps an a post? Im pretty positive that no one has a big enough sample size, but I would bet its 10% or less unless button is a total donk.
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#46
10-23-2005, 05:07 AM
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Re: This play needs a name...
No, sorry, my post was unclear. i don't think we will be able to determine the frequency with which we will be raised. I am just interested in seeing 8Ts being played profitably even by a guy with your amazing postflop skills [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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#47
10-23-2005, 05:07 AM
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Re: This play needs a name...
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With one pair of tens on the river, aftet the turn going check, check, yeah I would bet. WIth a 7 I think I check call. [/ QUOTE ] Do you call a river raise from an unknown with one pair of T's (assuming that is 2nd pair) after the turn goes check-check? Thanks, Cartman
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#48
10-23-2005, 05:15 AM
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Re: This play needs a name...
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[ QUOTE ] With one pair of tens on the river, aftet the turn going check, check, yeah I would bet. WIth a 7 I think I check call. [/ QUOTE ] Do you call a river raise from an unknown with one pair of T's (assuming that is 2nd pair) after the turn goes check-check? Thanks, Cartman [/ QUOTE ] I think taht happens so raraly that I honestly dont want to spend the time thinking about it.
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#49
10-23-2005, 05:33 AM
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Stats
My tracker stats for T9s and T8s:
 If even coldcalled with T9s if the situation was right (3 times out of 250,000 total hands). Pokerroom.com ev stats for those hands:  If average players from average positions (pokerroom.com)break even with T8s and win with T9s, apply the logic for a 'more favorable than average' situation like a limper and a poster. Sure you can get raised by a monster behind you, but that doesn't stop you from playing from the CO or Button with the blinds yet to act. Or maybe it does.
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