I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river

[gharp]

Well let's figure this out with some card frequency crap (assume 2pr or better on the turn):

QT (9 ways) - you're ahead now

Behind against...
KJ (12 ways)
Q7 (6 ways)
A7 (4 ways)
TT (3 ways)
77 (1 way)

So ahead 26 ways, behind 9. You'll win 9/35 ~ 25% of the time. Pot's offering you 8.5:1. Looks like a call.


And I also raise A9o UTG in 6-max, but I think it's close. I'm more likely to do it in a tight game.

[Aaron W.]

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It was only 5 players playing, so A9o UTG with 5 players is a raise according to my chart.

I put him on 2 pair to be honest..Queen and either ten or seven and I thought either, Ace, Nine, Either ten or seven would help me

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Of those two pair hands, how many do you now beat?

Edit: And how many still beat you?

[2+2 wannabe]

If you call this turn you have to call this river

the lines you can pick on turn/river to a check-raise are:

1. bet/fold
2. bet/call, check/call

bet/call, check/fold isn't a good option, as you shouldn't be calling the turn bet if you don't call the river

I pick #1 as a default (and will barely use #2 in this situation)

[deception5]

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I am new to 6-max, but is A9o a raisable hand UTG?

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ATo is raisable UTG 6-handed so A9o is borderline. However since this is 5 handed A9o is definitely raisable.

[aargh57]

You're also behind against AQ, and AT. I'm still saying fold.

[deception5]

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When he c/r me on the turn i knew I was behind, but figured I was probably good enough to continue... What does Hero do at the river?Raise, Call?Fold?


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It doesn't make any sense to call the check/raise if you're going to fold on the river.

[gharp]

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You're also behind against AQ, and AT. I'm still saying fold.

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Oops, yeah, I should've included those. I did intentionally leave out AA/QQ and AK. I figure that they're a wash with AJ, and all seem unlikely given the action.

QT (9 ways) - you're ahead now

Behind against...
KJ (12)
Q7 (6)
A7 (4)
TT (3)
77 (1)

AQ (6)
AT (6)

Now you win 9/47 times. ~20%. I'm still calling.


EDIT: I should say that all this is for the river. Whether to call the turn is a different story, when you're only getting 6.5:2 to call down.

[POKhER]

you lose to AK/AT/AQ/Set/Trips/straight
You split with most other things.

Hmmmmm call and cry.

I'm sure this has been said, but you can only call the turn raise if you're calling the river as well, b/c you're not getting odds to call to improve your hand.

[Reqtech]

Yes it is if you are CO+1.