Party Poker 0.50 / 1.00

[CanadianAmy]

Oh, there is no doubt there are still a lot of bad players, I am still beating the game for over 3bb/100 over the past 10,000 hands as things continue to tighten up. I think that the importance is increasingly on post flop play, which is an area I have been working very hard to improve.

Some said that my table selction needs work, how would I do that? I open a table, turn on GT+, and if the VPIP is below 25 for more than 2 rotations I leave, I use $ per pot to chose my table initially.

Over the past 10,000 hands the VPIP has been about 32%, but I have not been playing on PP to much lately, so I can not accurately say if there was a significant drop right when the 6 max tables opened.

I think that I may try 6-max this weekend, just need to do some research saturday morning.


My biggest complaint is when you get a really good preflop hand (AA, KK, AKs, QQ, etc.) and you raise and it goes all the way around and all you get is the blinds. (I try to play 20/10 so it is not like everytime I raise people can assume that I have AA.)

Quick serious question, if you are playing at a table that averages 2 or 3 players per flop, do you tighten up? (i.e. move from targeting 20/10 to something like 17/8?)

Amy

[jman220]

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Oh, there is no doubt there are still a lot of bad players, I am still beating the game for over 3bb/100 over the past 10,000 hands

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If your sample size is big enough and you're really beating the game for that much, I think you should strongly consider moving up soon. I also think it my be to your advantage to explore shorthanded play, it really is more profitable, you just have to deal with the higher variance.

[boose_bagina]

29% is nothing. Try interpoker 1/2, more often then not sb won't even play. (atleast when everyone used to whore it out there...its probably opened up since no one plays for bonuses there anymore...if theres anyone still there)

[bobbyi]

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If you look at a lot of the low limit literature out there, they talk about the games being loose with 5+ people seeing every pot, SHOW ME WHERE!?!?!?

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I used to play at Foxwoods and that's how it was. I was down in California two weeks ago and it was that way everywhere. Out where I live now around Seattle, that's how the games are. Also when I've played in Vegas. And Atlantic City. As far as I can tell, this is how the low limit games are everywhere in the US. And many midlimit games too. I see "family pots" in 20/40 games plenty often. If you don't like to play in casinos and want to sit home instead and play online, that is a reasonable choice. Nowadays, I usually do the same thing. But one of the tradeoffs is that you give up the super loose play that is common in any casino game. If you've made the choice to play agaisnt tougher opponents, don't complain to us about it.

[CanadianAmy]

I have a roll of about $1800 right now (about 1/2 bonuses, and 1/2 winnings), and I have beaten 0.50 / 1.00 for about 4.1 over the last 20,000 hands (before that I had a BAD BAD downswing, caused by BAD BAD play, but SSHE sure helped that situation!!!) I was going to wait until I got 100,000 hands in at 0.50 / 1.00 before moving up. I figured that would provide me with some real stats to analyze my play, and provide a foundation for self analysis. I have always been afraid of six max from a preflop perspective. I think that my target should be 28/14, but I am not sure.

Amy

[CanadianAmy]

I have never played live, online is the only game I know. How important are tells at the lower levels? Tells are what I would be afraid of as I have not studied that. Although I could pick up Caro's book (at least I think that is the 'Big Book of Tells'), and study it.

Anything else you would think is important in transitioning to a live game?

Amy

[boose_bagina]

there are no tells for micro level live games...half the guys are just trying to figure out what hand beats what (from my experience anyways)

[bobbyi]

I am not necessarily saying that you should pay live rather than online, just making you aware that the games are much looser live and that is what most books are addressing. Most people think that there is still more money to be made online due to multitabling, getting more hands per hour, not having to drive to a casino and wait for a seat to open up, etc.

As for tells, if you are still playing low/micro limits, your time would probably be better spent right now focussing on strategy and not worrying too much about tells, but Caro's book is something worth reading at some point. My general advice to you is not to try to "act" or fool your opponents into doing what you want. Instead, try to bet (or raise, call, etc.) exactly the same way every time. It will make your life easier.

For general issues playing live, there is a b&m newbie guide.

[QuickLearner]

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I have a roll of about $1800 right now ... I was going to wait until I got 100,000 hands in at 0.50 / 1.00 before moving up.

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Take a shot at a higher limit or different game now. Try $1/$2; or try the 6-max $.50/$1 tables. You have the bankroll...pick one and give it a go for 10K hands (or a few weeks) and then let us know how you made out. 100K hands at $.50/$1 would just KILL me. And it wouldn't tell me much more about myself than I already know.

[liquidboss]

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there are no tells for micro level live games...half the guys are just trying to figure out what hand beats what (from my experience anyways)

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I'm always saying this to my buddies when I'm heading to the casino and they are too scared or nervous to come with me and play live. They think they will give away their hand with tells and I have to emphasize that no one at any table up to about 4/8 pays attention to tells. Half of them barely know how to play.