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Old 12-05-2005, 04:45 PM
vinyard vinyard is offline
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Default Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3

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Well, there's no reason for villain to raise anything less than his whole stack here, so I'm not sure how much you can tell by that.

[/ QUOTE ] I would say that signicant percentage of $22 and $33 players will not push their AA and KK here. There are a few that smooth call but I think the majority raise to somwhere between 300 and 400 chips to get more chips in the pot, check the flop if called (Villain's in the SB) and come over the top of any bet. I am not saying that is how they should play but that is certainly how they do play.
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Old 12-05-2005, 08:06 PM
playtitleist playtitleist is offline
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Default Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3

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I would say that signicant percentage of $22 and $33 players will not push their AA and KK here.

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This could be true, but I push this all the time, I expect to get calls from shorties and biggies fairly often. I figure any shortie who will call your raise will call a push, same pretty much for a biggie. So why not just push?

I am only just starting the $22s, but haven't noticed a difference in the effectiveness of this play from the $11s.

Merely raising here implies a raise expects to action more often than a push. Will I really find the $22ers and $33ers more apt to call a smaller raise vs. lay down to a push?
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Old 12-05-2005, 08:23 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3

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I would say that signicant percentage of $22 and $33 players will not push their AA and KK here.

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This could be true, but I push this all the time, I expect to get calls from shorties and biggies fairly often. I figure any shortie who will call your raise will call a push, same pretty much for a biggie. So why not just push?

I am only just starting the $22s, but haven't noticed a difference in the effectiveness of this play from the $11s.

Merely raising here implies a raise expects to action more often than a push. Will I really find the $22ers and $33ers more apt to call a smaller raise vs. lay down to a push?

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I don't think you want to push AA, KK. That seems as it would discourage action, you want action with those hands and while you may occassionally get someone to call your push, you are probably losing bets in the long run, IMO...
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:21 PM
pineapple888 pineapple888 is offline
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Default Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3

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I would say that signicant percentage of $22 and $33 players will not push their AA and KK here.

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This could be true, but I push this all the time, I expect to get calls from shorties and biggies fairly often. I figure any shortie who will call your raise will call a push, same pretty much for a biggie. So why not just push?

I am only just starting the $22s, but haven't noticed a difference in the effectiveness of this play from the $11s.

Merely raising here implies a raise expects to action more often than a push. Will I really find the $22ers and $33ers more apt to call a smaller raise vs. lay down to a push?

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I don't think you want to push AA, KK. That seems as it would discourage action, you want action with those hands and while you may occassionally get someone to call your push, you are probably losing bets in the long run, IMO...

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Yeah. Except look at all the 2+2ers who call with JJ here. Now add in all the donks who also call here. Now what would you do with AA?
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