TPTK but too many people

#1 10-11-2005, 11:46 PM

Okay I have TPTK but I REALLY don't like it against 5 other hands that have passively called me the whole way. Is it too weak to not bet this? Should I really bet/fold against this many players? I may be ahead on this hand but can I statistically be ahead enough for it to be +ev???
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (14 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

Aaron W. · #2 10-11-2005, 11:47 PM

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Okay I have TPTK but I REALLY don't like it against 5 other hands that have passively called me the whole way. Is it too weak to not bet this? Should I really bet/fold against this many players? I may be ahead on this hand but can I statistically be ahead enough for it to be +ev???
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (14 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks, SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls, SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls, SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

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Hurry up and fix that river action...

lautzutao · #3 10-11-2005, 11:48 PM

wow, that's a lot of river action. Definitely call that down.

AdamL · #4 10-11-2005, 11:49 PM

Man as long as they keep calling your river bet, I'd keep making it over and over and make them call until their stacks are gone.

What a great table. You might want to self-cap the flop though.

#5 10-11-2005, 11:57 PM

Har har, it's fixed.

Aaron W. · #6 10-11-2005, 11:59 PM

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Okay I have TPTK but I REALLY don't like it against 5 other hands that have passively called me the whole way. Is it too weak to not bet this? Should I really bet/fold against this many players? I may be ahead on this hand but can I statistically be ahead enough for it to be +ev???

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Yes. Maybe not. Yes.

Guruman · #7 10-12-2005, 12:06 AM

my guess is that a river bet here folds out 4 if not 5 of your players. I bet/call.

#8 10-12-2005, 12:11 AM

The biggest fears I had were Q/10 OESD or 2 bad pair.

Aaron W. · #9 10-12-2005, 12:13 AM

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The biggest fears I had were Q/10 OESD or 2 bad pair.

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Why do you fear those?

Why not think about the QJ that's been calling you down? Or the A9 that you've had reverse dominated the whole time?

TripleH68 · #10 10-12-2005, 12:16 AM

I think you collect a couple BBs more often than you lose a couple here.

QT/98 are the only reasonable hands that beat you.