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Old 11-03-2005, 02:08 PM
MEbenhoe MEbenhoe is offline
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Default Draws Galore

5 Handed

Villian has been playing very TAGish and would classify him as playing much like a typical 2+2er

I have As Ts

I raise, 3 folds, Villian calls in BB

Flop is Js 8d 9s
Villian checks, I bet, he raises, I 3 bet, he calls

Turn 6h
Villian checks, I check(at this point its pretty likely I need to improve to win)

River Ah
Villian bets, I .... raise or call?

how was the turn check?
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: Draws Galore

No raise here he likely had ax paired on flop.... I really like the turn check
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:34 PM
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Call. I think he's folding a lot of worse hands to a raise. I don't think your typical tag calls with worse often enough. And it's very possible that you're beat.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:37 PM
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Call the river. I don't think a raise gets you much here. If you are ahead, I don't think he calls you. If he can beat TP, he will raise you.

I like the check on the turn as well. I don't trust his check as a sign of weakness, more likely a check raise opportunity. Get your free card, after all, you paid for it.

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Old 11-03-2005, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Draws Galore

heads-up i'd fire again on the turn hoping to take it down (and a ton of outs if not). after the check, i'd just call the river bet. the range of hands he could have here is pretty high, depending on his read of you.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:42 PM
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I'd raise.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Draws Galore

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heads-up i'd fire again on the turn hoping to take it down (

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If villan had simply called the flop bet, I'd do this. Since he c/r'd, I'd prob take hero's line.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:54 PM
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I like your line. I would just call the river. After your turn check, he probably puts you on AK, AQ, or KQs (maybe TT also), so for him the ace is a pretty scary card to be bluffing at. I think you will win much less than 55% of the time he calls your raise (isn't that the rule from HPFAP?)
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: Draws Galore

you don't think there's a good chance villan is f.o.s. here and is making a move (maybe with a draw), against what he might view as a steal attempt? i think a bet on the turn here is basically a freeroll a good % of the time.
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:04 PM
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He might be FOS, but I'm giving just a little more credence to the fact that he's called an UTG raise. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate betting the turn, it really depends on a more solid read of villan though.
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