2 pair, Turn decision

[Yort Mada]

My plan was to check raise this turn but it got raised to me... which leads to my question. What play is profitable in this situation?

both players are pretty passive pre-flop. not sure about post flop i hadnt been in very many hands when this happend.

btw, i cant get bison's hand converter to work properly. my hands after converted are just random plays that might or might not had happend. anyone know how to fix it?


$1/$2 Texas Hold'em - Thursday, April 21, 03:04:41 EDT 2005
Table breathing fire (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: ssgray2000 ( $50.50 )
Seat 3: willie146 ( $27.25 )
Seat 4: HERO ( $33.70 )
Seat 5: Torch_2000 ( $17 )
Seat 6: Chopper1898 ( $98.50 )
Seat 9: K4s_Legend ( $31 )
Seat 10: slong100 ( $115.50 )
Seat 8: tiger9 ( $45 )
Seat 1: hands12 ( $17 )
Seat 7: nocliinnt ( $53.90 )
willie146 posts small blind [$0.50].
HERO posts big blind [$1].
nocliinnt posts big blind [$1].
hands12 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 4h 5s ]
Torch_2000 folds.
Chopper1898 folds.
nocliinnt checks.
tiger9 raises [$2].
K4s_Legend folds.
slong100 calls [$2].
hands12 calls [$1].
ssgray2000 folds.
willie146 calls [$1.50].
HERO calls [$1].
nocliinnt folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Qh, 2c ]
willie146 checks.
>You have options at Table 32076 Table!.
HERO checks.
tiger9 bets [$1].
slong100 folds.
hands12 calls [$1].
willie146 folds.
HERO calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
HERO checks.
tiger9 bets [$2].
hands12 raises [$4].
HERO ...

[Trix]

use: http://www.selachian.com/tools/bison...hconverter.cgi

and remove "Texas " from the line $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - Thursday, April 21, 03:04:41 EDT 2005, so it looks like:
$1/$2 Hold'em - Thursday, April 21, 03:04:41 EDT 2005, then the converter works.

I think I fold, but it´s not a fun spot.

It doesn´t make much sense for the guy who raised to have called on the flop with a one pair hand, intending to raise on the turn with still just one pair, so he probably hit his flush, straight or slowplayed the flop with something better than bottom 2.

[Kumubou]

Re: the convertor, you need to remove the word 'Texas' from the top of the hand history. That causes the tokenizer to go bananas and offset everything, resulting in some seriously bizarre output.

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That is a seriously loose call pre-flop. I would not play 54o anywhere except in the BB for free. Now if they were s00ted, it would be marginal to play.

Flop is standard -- you are getting twelve to one closing the action. Some of your outs are dirty, but you have more than enough to press on.

Fun turn. Gives you two pair, but also completes some random straight draws and a flush draw, which the CO seems to have hit. I really can not think of any hands that were completed there that you are still ahead of.

Meh, I do not like folding in this situtation but I can not figure out what you are ahead of short of some real donkery, and you do not have odds to fill up now.

-K

[Yort Mada]

<quote>That is a seriously loose call pre-flop. I would not play 54o anywhere except in the BB for free. Now if they were s00ted, it would be marginal to play.</quote>

yea, i know... i dont think it was that big of mistake tho. But like you said... i did it and now i have the flop odds *wink

Thanks for teh advice and the bison's info. <3

[macdaddy991]

fold

[Yort Mada]

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fold

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oh man... you make it sound so easy. I dunno what limits you play but at 1/2 party i get bluffed on these kinda boards pretty often. I know i dont have the odds to call but ... heck i didnt know what to do =P thats why i'm here <3

thanks for the advice

[macdaddy991]

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fold

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oh man... you make it sound so easy. I dunno what limits you play but at 1/2 party i get bluffed on these kinda boards pretty often. I know i dont have the odds to call but ... heck i didnt know what to do =P thats why i'm here <3

thanks for the advice

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You had to call 2 bets cold. Assuming you are behind, you have 5 outs to fill up. The odds arent there.