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Old 07-19-2004, 09:22 PM
tardigrade tardigrade is offline
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Default Weak-tight with JJ

I'd been LAGging up this table pretty good for the first 30 minutes, and was gearing down to a more sane level. This one just didn't flow for me, though. UTG+1 was classic weak-tight and never bet without a strong hand. I don't think I ever saw her raise to this point.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks,

These jacks have been ruining me recently, and I just couldn't force myself to hit the "raise" button. Perhaps it should be a little bigger.

Flop: (5 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

I don't see any reason to slowplay this set, so I just hit it as hard as they let me. I'm getting zero respect! [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Turn: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks.

Now I get all scared.

River: (7 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

Ok ... all better now, then scared again. Aargh!!! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Final Pot: 12 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 12 BB, between Hero and UTG+1.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (12 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG+1 shows Ac Qh (one pair, queens).
Hero shows Jd Jc (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins 12 BB. </font>

You'd think I'd never read a single post here.
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Old 07-19-2004, 09:27 PM
bisonbison bisonbison is offline
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Default Re: Weak-tight with JJ

You need to raise this preflop.

Leading the flop is fine, 3-betting good - so lead the turn.

River, sure, but you'll have a much better read with more aggression earlier in hand.
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Old 07-19-2004, 10:01 PM
easypete easypete is offline
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Default Re: Weak-tight with JJ

Raise pf.... Yes JJ gets beat.... so do AA and 72o. Raise pf w/ JJ because you more than likely have the best hand.

Good cap on flop... Bet the turn. Good bet/call on river.
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Old 07-19-2004, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: Weak-tight with JJ

What he said.
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Old 07-20-2004, 06:51 AM
HoldemOrFoldem HoldemOrFoldem is offline
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Default Re: Weak-tight with JJ

With big pocket pairs, bet them preflop like there is no tommorrow... then keep betting until someone slows you down.

On the flop you have the best hand, but it is still vunerable to others improving their hand (catching a 3rd queen or maybe a flush), so capping it is correct.

I would keep betting on the turn too... if they have the flush, they will let you know by re-raising you.

The river aggression would scare me too... but only enough to slow me down, not enough to fold (especially in the face of them checking the turn previously).
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